Well we really screwed this one up…

May 31, 2007 00:47


For reasons we are still trying to figure out what was supposed to be a well planned attempt to clean up a few journals that were violating LiveJournal's policies that protect minors turned into a total mess. I can only say I’m sorry, explain what we did wrong and what we are doing to correct these problems and explain what we were trying to do but ( Read more... )

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barakb25 May 31 2007, 08:47:48 UTC
OK. Yes these are hard issues. That does not mean we can just ignore them.

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hoshi3 May 31 2007, 09:01:52 UTC
Even though people who have those hot words in their interests, yet never say anything in relation to said interest, but have it there and write fictional stories for fandom purposes only?

You would be surprised at the number of people who write those types of /fictional/ stories, yet /do not support/ those actions in reality.

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spare_change May 31 2007, 09:04:12 UTC
But ... it does mean that. Because you are now claiming to be able to read people's minds based on what they list as interests and the kind of fiction they write and discuss. Do you realize how offensive that is ( ... )

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unperfectwolf May 31 2007, 09:13:30 UTC
Yes - my money doesn't need to go into a community that is being controlled by someone who thinks that you build a community from the top down. Because you don't. We form a community, and you give us a place to come and interact. But, if you try and control the community, they will rebel. And take their money with them.

You are not the thought police.

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duskpeterson May 31 2007, 09:21:35 UTC
"Literature is supposed to reflect the world. And the world is often an ugly place. Exploring ugliness doesn't mean that you condone it."

Amen.

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indie_young May 31 2007, 09:40:12 UTC
I have nothing to add except here here! and I will NOT be satisfied until six apart answers these questions.

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ingriam May 31 2007, 10:08:49 UTC
I'm just going to add my agreement, too.

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julietofarcadia May 31 2007, 10:30:48 UTC
You are my hero. My sleep-deprived brain totally couldn't even begin to put into words how I feel about this and you've done it perfectly.

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abetterday May 31 2007, 09:04:14 UTC
Then what can you do? Seriously. We are all waiting for an answer and this certainly was not an answer to spare_change's questions.

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darkenedminds May 31 2007, 09:32:45 UTC
What kind of reply is this? I was getting comfortable in this apology till I saw this.

Fandom is seriously the least of your worries as far as building a better community. Weed out the real pedos - you know, the ones who don't think Harry Potter is sooo hot and should totally hook up with Ginny, or the likes. A story or a fanart in a regard like this isn't a "thin veneer" of anything. I could take a fanfiction featuring fictional adult characters and replace the names with underage characters like Harry Potter and it'd be the same damned thing: A work of fiction.

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anatsuno May 31 2007, 09:37:00 UTC
As a friend of mine put it...

Right.

So I suppose the 600 or so journals that list infertility as an interest are saying "I like infertility!".

Oh look, here are 500 journals that say "I'm in favour of pcos!".

Not to mention 600 journals yelling "I support diabetes!".

Seriously, go read up on folksonomies, and then come back with better arguments. Hell, ask Mena Trott! I mean, you guys are supposed to be on top of that kind of stuff, and this is the best you can do? Forget me being bewildered and hurt and taking my dollars elsewhere, on top of that you're just managing to destroy all your internet credibility, and you're costing me my personal geek heroes.

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spare_change May 31 2007, 09:40:10 UTC
But ... I love cancer. And AIDS. Don't you? :(

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anglicwitch May 31 2007, 11:54:48 UTC
thank you, thank you, thank you.

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gonewithoutjam May 31 2007, 13:08:28 UTC
I'm going off to change the fact that I'm apparently in favour of endangered species (is that in favour of them being endangered I wonder?), child labour and censorship.

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justholdstill May 31 2007, 09:38:52 UTC
Dear Mr. Berkowitz,

I fully expect no reply to this, as I got no reply when I either left comments at , when I emailed feedback, privacy, or support, or when I called the US SixApart office and left messages. I was ignored, as were almost all of my fellow users simply wanting to know how we could possibly have ended up defending ourselves from this mess.

I have spent the day doing whatever I can - putting the word out on my own journal and elsewhere, passing around pertinent links, becoming a member of fandom_counts (currently with over 23,100 members and going strong), emailing whoever the heck I could, even those idiot "warriors for innocence", even putting up links, pertinent information, and my very frank opinion on my publishing blog and on Facebook ( ... )

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indie_young May 31 2007, 10:06:16 UTC
You're right they are hard issues - so answers to how you plan to deal with this and not destroy the freedom of speech that livejournal up until now has allowed its users to exercise would be great. You know like real answers.

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