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Dec 14, 2009 02:32

I mean, what better way to digest really dull theory than to apply it to texts you actually care for? I'm so, so sorry.

Since fandom is all about slash these days, both Are You There, God and Skeletons share the motif of emerging homosexual identities. Funny as it is (and different from a lot of conventional gay fiction, I bet), both Alexander and ( Read more... )

hetalia, big words, fma

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stalkerbunny December 14 2009, 22:25:31 UTC
I need moar writing like this about fics. ¤3¤
Even though I haven't read either fic you speak of.

Intriguing is intriguing...mildly relatedly, think there are any hetalia fic rec pages out there, or are they just not in fashion these days/ in the fandom? >3>

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nighteevee December 14 2009, 23:34:40 UTC
Noooo you don't. Even if I wrote it all for shits and giggles and was honestly surprised at how many serious words I could attach to particularly the first fic (which might be well worth reading if you're familiar with the first FMA series and the movie and aren't adverse to cheerful incest).

Here's the Hetalia fic, and no, I don't know about any rec lists (there's one on TVtropes somewhere, but I can't vouch for the quality check there). I'm not entirely sure about why, but it could be because of the young median age of the fandom: rec lists is a phenomenon that I personally have only seen in fandoms with an older-than-your-average-anime following.

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stalkerbunny December 15 2009, 13:34:09 UTC
Yup, the age thing is probably it...

Is it bad that I don't care how seriously or not it was written...um. Kinda reminds me of writing/reading essays back in upper secondary...*wistful* =3=

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nighteevee December 15 2009, 14:54:12 UTC
I suppose I could say that it is serious enough in that I did nothing else than discuss it from the same theoretical angle as I would have "real" literature. I'm just not sure how much of it really can be said to apply all the time the writers in question are most likely writing solely from the gut, and not taking the subtler parts of storytelling into consideration.

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sliefoxx December 15 2009, 10:11:48 UTC
Ohgawd are talking about Skeletons where little!Al and Ed find their grandparents' letters?

I can't believe how small the fandom world is sometimes.

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nighteevee December 15 2009, 12:21:50 UTC
*snrk* Yeah. It's not all that surprising that I should know it, tho - it was a pretty big fic in the Elricest fanbase back in the day even though the rest of the fandom ignored it completely.

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sliefoxx December 15 2009, 18:17:49 UTC
Has it got more popular since then? I remember there being a Skeletons community for the sheer amount of fanart it was getting.

I remember people being extremely irritated by that fic. Especially the Church of Elric people (Who I know are not the say-alls to FMA fandom, but they were who I talked to the most) but it was just that they were squicked by Elricest. Nothing against the fic or author personally. It was very well-written. I was one of those people, but I read it anyway because, well, I wanted to know what happened. I just don't like Elricest.

I think what bothered me was how idealistic it was, especially on the modern end. The author was trying very hard to be realistic but I just can't buy into the message that "incest is okay depending on the circumstance". Maybe she didn't buy into it either, I don't know.

I consider myself to be an open-minded person, that fic though, just rubbed me the wrong way.

/tangent

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nighteevee December 15 2009, 19:53:07 UTC
Nah, the author moved on to other fandoms and the fic didn't live long after that.

I shouldn't be talking FMA fandom politics since my involvement in the fandom was more or less limited to "stalking over at elricest", but, well, the writer was pretty much the only reliable writer (as in "posts fic more than once in a blue moon") who wasn't somehow connected to the Church of Elric; and I do remember being somewhat puzzled by the iron wall between them and her, because she seemed like such an extremely sweet individual in her ANs and comments, yet was completely and utterly ignored by all the big names on the comm (might just have been because they had moved on by then, of course, but still. That fic was huge). I suppose I can see why people would have problems with where the fic came from - I did, too, and was surprised by how good it was. She writes well, she writes IC, and my *cough* study of it showed that she (be it on purpose or not) incorporated a number of subtle story devices that you normally don't expect from fanfic. The story is ( ... )

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