Douchey Moments in History

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Welcome to another edition of Douchey Moments in History!

"This is my... Luke Snyder"
This is only a minorly douchey moment, in the sense of it not being outright mean or cruel or anything, but IMO it really illustrates something about Noah's character. Luke had moments earlier stood up to Noah's father and declared that he loved Noah. When Noah

Comments

[marsabi]

Thanks for all of these great clips! Luke's family did support Noah being a douche too much of the time (as others said). I'm glad that Luke could not marry back then for one reason only - can you imagine if Noah were his husband too?(Shudder)

But now it makes me sad to think of his not being with/marying Reid. Anyhow, I apppreciate all the effort you put into this.

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I'm glad that Luke could not marry back then for one reason only - can you imagine if Noah were his husband too?(Shudder)

That's a great point! I mean, I am all in favor of marriage equality, but I am exceedingly glad that Luke never married Noah. Although I'm not entirely convinced that they would have gotten married, just because they were so young, but God! if they had? That would have been horrible!

It is sad to think that he can't marry Reid, but I am optimistic that those laws will change. I don't know when, but when you look at all the polls that show that opposition to marriage equality is highest among the oldest people and that support is highest among the youngest, I think it's clear that it's only a matter of time before the laws change.

[marsabi]

I hope you are right about the age thing! I think I might sit down and write short piece for LJ with Noah as the hubbie, but I'd have to have poor Luke wake up from that nightmare and be married to Reid LOL! I'm going to try it now for some fun.

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Oh, I'm as sure as it's possible to be about the age thing. If it was just one or two polls, I wouldn't be convinced, but poll after poll all say the same thing: that the younger people are, the more likely they are to support marriage equality. I mean, even with younger people, it's not a slam dunk or anything -- in Pew Research poll taken just a little over a month ago, they said that 53 percent of people born after 1980 support marriage equality with 39 percent opposed. So it's a solid majority, but it's not like ALL younger people support it. The reverse is true of people born before 1945, with 59 percent opposed to equality and only 29 percent in favor. And I don't care if this is callous or something, but it's a simple fact that when younger people want something and older people don't, it's just a waiting game for more older people to die off and more younger people to reach the voting age before the overall majority view for the whole country changes.

As this article explains, overall public sentiment in the US is shifting

[burstoflife]

I was just going through these posts from recent to now, and I have to say that I never really noticed what any ass Noah was, though that could be because he kind of bored me to death most of the time he came on screen, but know I have a perfect reason to like Reid with Luke then I ever did before.

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From pretty early on, I realized that Noah treated Luke horribly a lot of the time, but it wasn't like there were a whole lot of gay couples on TV, so I kept on wanting them to be together, all the while hoping that sooner or later Noah would get a clue and start acting like a decent human being. There were at least half a dozen times when I went back and forth between hoping the writers would bring in a new boyfriend for Luke and hoping they would "fix" Noah so he might become the boyfriend Luke deserved. The blindness storyline is what really ended any hopes I ever had that maybe Noah could still be redeemed. He was just such a total douche to Luke throughout that story, constantly treating him like garbage, blaming Luke for his own stupidity, that I actually stopped watching for several months. It was only when I started seeing comments about some new guy who was a potential love interest for Luke that I went back and started watching again from the point where I'd previously left off. And I was already fully prepared to be a Luke/

[burstoflife]

I agree with there wasn't a lot of gay couples on TV so we were all hooked on this couple. But I don't understand at first why they didn't just fix Noah, and let him keep messing around with luke that way.But then I got to know Reid better and he made the statement that he wished he was blind so Luke could take of him, and that he wouldn't be a jerk to him. It just made me fall in love with him, because if wanting to lose your sight so you could be with some one is not love then I don't know. I also enjoyed how he always stuck up for Luke, stating that someone needed to care for him not vice-versa. It was like the writers finally got some sense knocked into them thank the lord.

one other thing

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I was so happy that they were introducing a muslim character, but the way they put here into the storyline was awful, I mean great way to make unnecessary problems between the gay couple and Noah had to marry her, like there was no other person who could. My goodness this storyline between the three was worse then awful, it totally ruined the show for me at that time.