Spock and Race Fail

[noein9]

 Oh my.

I saw the rebooted Star Trek film, and boy, I had to see it twice before coming to peace with it.  The physics was starnge and laughable, and the tone kinda scary and nihilistic, and you get the sense that the ship is utterly doomed with all those loose cannons on board but-

Spock.

SPOCK SPOCK SPOCK.

Yeah.

and how about that race fail, literally

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[merisunshine36]

Hi! I followed you here from spock_uhura. And I love that you posed this question:
What does it say about this Spock that he considers- seriously- resigning and helping rebuild a world that let him know he was lesser- and will always be lesser than?Which I definitely haven't seen addressed yet! It's kind of like, say, if you were an African American in WWII, and the USA was destroyed by nuclear weapons but you are evacuated. Do you stay around and help rebuild? Or say, "the hell with you and your Jim Crow laws, I'm headed to Canada! It's not like Spock would necessarily be super comfortable on earth (or A-A's in Africa), which seems to still be primarily human-populated despite the presence of aliens. I am sure there are pockets of people on Earth who totally resent the fact that all of this space travel has meant that their human planet has been sullied by those dirty, scary looking aliens. He wasn't exactly chummy with the populace of Vulcan, but until he entered Starfleet, that was all he ever knew

[noein9]

Hey There! Awesome!

treats the Vulcans are a hive mind with the exception of Spock. But they can't possibly all agree that the most logical decision is to re-colonize.

One thing: Vulcans are a hive mind, in a way. according to old school canon, they are empathic and touch telepaths, and have an overall awareness of each other . Spock is seen to be more sensitive than most. In Old school Trek, a mass death of Vulcans ( only 400) on the Intrepid causes Spock to know that the ship was destroyed before the Enterprise was able to confirm the destruction.

Imagine being ultra sensitive to the death of 6 billion beings.

it seems that cross-breeding with Romulans would have a higher rate of success than with humans (I think I heard somewhere that Spock is the only Vulcan/human to have ever survived adulthood?). Indeed. Also, Vulcan was such a large planet that it could support about 12-18 billion ( based on old trek novels) but they only had 6 billion ( in Old Trek, it was something like 3 billion) Vulcans, for the most part, were

[merisunshine36]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me!

I can't imagine feeling the loss of 6 billion beings--"deep emotions" or no, I am suprised more of them aren't catatonic or dead from broken hearted-ness.

Ooh, I like the angle that their race is dying out. It adds a level of urgency to the situation. Plot bunny alert--development of a drug that induces pon-farr in the "off seasons" with the intent of encouraging faster reproduction! Ethical implications and drama ahoy! *pets bunny*

[noein9]

Hey!

I can't imagine feeling the loss of 6 billion beings--"deep emotions" or no, I am suprised more of them aren't catatonic or dead from broken hearted-ness.When the Holocaust- mass extermination of European Jews- took place, there was severe and horrid shock. There were several African American soldier units who arrived on the scene, and their, speaking as minorities who were despised in their own country, is still pretty terrifying to read today. Jews who lived in America, and for the most part was not completely sure what was going on, went through a severe spiritual and mental crisis, questioning their very sense of being. But here was the founding of Israel, and the renewal of Jewish spirituality and sense of brotherhood. Jewish tribes who lived in Africa, in Asia ( China and the Stans) and the remaining Jews in Russia controled asia were all brought back to Israel. As a result, the understanding of what is Jewish culture changed, broadened- no, not boadened, it was already broad! But all of the Jewish brothers and sisters