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moon_ferret April 3 2011, 15:27:11 UTC
Going to admit I clicked on the link expecting to want to punt a puppy.

Instead I read a well thought out post about why The Secret and the Name It and Claim It movement bother the shit out of me.

Things are just too damn complicated and the real world gets in the way of "Just clap hard enough and Tink will live". (as a child I sat on my hands during that part. I think I see a trend...)

Thanks for the link.

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supermouse April 3 2011, 18:47:43 UTC
Yeah, proponents go quiet if you ask, does 'The Secret' still work if you're a 24yo mother of three living in a single-room house in Haiti? And, if you get cholera and die, was it because you didn't wish hard enough, or does it have a lot to do with the fact you live in a place with no clean water? Is the secret to 'the secret' to wish, before you're born, to be born (preferably male) to a nice middle-class white family in First World Suburbia?

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emily_goddess April 3 2011, 23:58:39 UTC
I tend to be suspicious of people who believe all the bad things in life are caused by negative thinking. Either they're so sheltered and privileged that they're ignorant of the shit some people go through in this world, or they genuinely believe that children who step on land mines have brought it on themselves. Either way, I don't think we'll have much to talk about.

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darth_eldritch April 3 2011, 15:45:42 UTC
Those who teach that you "create your own reality" forget that we live in a complex world where others are, through their own free will, affecting the world around us.

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ianphanes April 4 2011, 22:06:59 UTC
Starhawk once wrote something like: "The four-year old who gets his head blown off in El Salvador did not create that reality. His parents' and grandparents' generation did."

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darth_eldritch April 4 2011, 23:21:37 UTC
Yes, Starhawk would be so succint!

This is why some of the old cultures had concepts of "karma" as family or clan matters. What we do will affect our descendants.

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whomp April 3 2011, 20:54:16 UTC
I hadn't known of that blog before so thanks for the link.

Kerr Cuhulain's books actually cite "What the Bleep" as a reference in footnotes, one of the many things that annoys me about his books.

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