A mostly cogent rant about Prop 8 and California and we tried, okay? We tried.

Nov 05, 2008 22:31

Proposition 8 passing in California, effectively banning all same-sex marriages from this point forward (and, possibly, nullifying those already performed, it isn't clear yet), was one of the few things that didn't surprise me in this election ( Read more... )

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somanyfuns November 6 2008, 13:30:42 UTC
I really didn't think this would happen. I was really sure about Obama, and I was really sure about same sex marriage. 1 out of 2?

Interestingly, some factors that helped Obama really hurt same-sex marriage; exit polls showed that 7 out of 10 black voters supported Prop 8.

Also my county sucks! We re-elected our annoying Congressman, too.

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nonsenseprocess November 6 2008, 13:56:51 UTC
I wasn't at all sure about Obama. I couldn't even think about it. I'm one of the few people I know that's been supporting Obama since - well, pretty much since he threw his hat into the race. I voted for him in the primaries, I voted for him on the 4th, but I had absolutely no measure of confidence that he would actually win. Because I honestly just don't trust the US at this point. (Just like I don't trust California. I am untrusting!)

So, I was - amazed and overjoyed and so proud of the US for electing him. And disappointed but not surprised that California voters don't think that I deserve, you know, equal human rights, because they've been polling that way for months.

I'm really unwilling to blame Prop 8 passing on any racial group. Only 8.6% of Californians are African-American, according to the 2006 census, and that's total population, not registered voters. Caucasians make up 43.1% of the state population, still more than any other racial group. We lost it by age. 66% of voters aged 18-25 voted against Prop 8, and 60% of ( ... )

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somanyfuns November 6 2008, 18:54:52 UTC
I gave serious thought when I was picking between Obama and Hillary, and I picked him, so then...I guess I've been supporting since the primaries, although I remember in 2006 I was presented with the idea of him running and liked it. But mostly just working on the hill, I've heard how democrats and republicans talked about him and I was so, so sure he'd win.

I don't think it's an issue of blame, but it was interesting to note. It's interesting about the ages, too, although unsurprising, and the inland thing-- huh. Do smart people seek water?

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nonsenseprocess November 6 2008, 14:24:50 UTC
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Thank you for letting me throw numbers and rant at you at unholy hours of the morning.

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plaidseven November 7 2008, 22:33:22 UTC
That sucks so bad. I can't even... I can't even express how sorry I am for my country over this. And worried. This is so scary.

*hugs*

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sacredwhimsy November 9 2008, 20:14:27 UTC
From what I heard the latino community had as much to do with it as anything - which makes sense, I guess, aren't most of them pretty hardcore Catholic?

People have already started to fight back; I've seen pushes for a re-vote, which is going to be hard unless there are really that many people who feel strongly about the issue who neglected to vote last time that are going to change the outcome for a second go-round. Though maybe it would change, just because people would only show up if they cared hard enough, and not just put a vote down because they're in the booth anyways for the national election. It was a pretty narrow margin that we lost by...

As far as I'm concerned, it is wrong that this was ever on a ballot. Human rights - minority rights especially - are not something that should require popular approval. The U.S. Constitution has certain tenets in place against the 'abridging of liberties' and stuff, but I'm sure you know more about that than me ( ... )

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sacredwhimsy November 10 2008, 00:38:27 UTC
And of course /after/ posting that I read this editorial. Linked!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/06/espuelas.prop.eight/index.html

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