Comments | nora_bean: weekend with kyle

nora_bean

weekend with kyle

Oct 31, 2006 16:10

heyyyyyy y'all:

kyle came this weekend, we had a good last visit together before I take off. in fitting fashion, the weekend was full of classic kyle-nora activities. ( including: )

kyle, chicago

Comments 7

grumblybean November 1 2006, 02:45:07 UTC

Can I borrow Kyle while you're gone? :)

I am so with you about the mini-things. But not in a creepy maiden-aunt sort of way. In a hip funky, um, way.

Maybe once you're back we could "do" Chicago? I'd like that.

gwenergy November 2 2006, 02:19:29 UTC

damn woman!!
kyle put some of the hold steady on my mix cd.
i'm jealous of your knitting. still. covetous, maybe.
sounds like a good time, melove.
color in the wardrobe gets the thumbs up

g

me anonymous November 2 2006, 03:57:10 UTC

"kyle is the best music-loving heterosexual gay buddy ever"

Thanks? :D

K

Marie anonymous November 3 2006, 15:05:35 UTC

Upon further reflection, I don't think Marie was supposed to be about "pity the poor celebrity". Instead, I think it was about being born into certain expectations and failing to meet them/rejecting them and while remaining in the same essential role, making it your own. The film was really about Sofia Coppola. Being the heiress to the Sun King is somewhat akin to being the daughter of Francis Coppola. Her early embarrasing failure in Godfather III and later success as a director completely unlike her father match up pretty well with Marie's experiences in the French court. And, surely unintentionally, the critical reaction to the film could be compared to the behavior of the French mob...

K

Re: Marie nora_bean November 3 2006, 22:00:57 UTC

yes, it was very transparently about Sofia, but it was much more an exercise in self-defense than self-examination. there's a dose self-criticism -- Marie's guilty of ignoring her tutor, etc -- but most of the storytelling off as Coppola asking us not to judge her. or any heir/ess. like she's saying "What can you expect of us, given the crazy world we're born into?" it's fair, to a point. when you don't ask for power, or fame, or whatever, you can't be expected to use it well. so the movie makes it clear marie had it fabulous, but she didn't always have it easy. which is true.

part of what irks me, though, is the historical-figure-as-self-portrait thing - it's a little too self-aggrandizing. it's one thing to say, "Let's look at this person empathetically, from such-and-such a point of view." it got a little stupid with this film because it seemed Coppola was thinking, "Let's look at this person because omg she's just like me." which is not very true ( ... )

Re: Marie anonymous November 3 2006, 23:00:41 UTC

Certainly, it was a vanity project.

Who would you do for your own historical-figure-as-self-portrait film? Presuming you had the bad taste to make one, which of course you wouldn't. :)

K

Re: Marie nora_bean November 5 2006, 22:04:18 UTC

Impossible to say. I really don't think there's a figure in history yet who quite reflects my own depth, complexity and deep significance. I will have to produce films that are directly autobiographical, I'm afraid.