So. Fringe.

May 08, 2011 11:38

Um, I really don't have anything more to say besides that.

Except, wait, I do. Spoilery discussion of Lost and the Fringe finale. )

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empressearwig May 8 2011, 15:51:55 UTC
The only way to understand JJ Abrams is to involve alcohol, I think.

In addition to your problems, I think it can't go unsaid that given the difficulties in making genre television for network tv is that you don't know how long you're going to have. He's never had a show where he knows that he's going to get picked up regularly and it's always caused problems because they try to cram too much in because they fear not being able to answer the questions they've asked and then when they try, they please no one.

You know what movie I want to see him make? Just a straight romantic dramedy, no time travel, no phasers, no aliens. Just a movie about characters living their lives because I think he could be really fucking good at that.

Instead he is what he is and I am not going to be fooled again. I'm not. I don't hate myself that much. Do I?

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normative_jean May 8 2011, 16:06:17 UTC
Mmm, alcohol. Yes,, lol, it makes things make a lot more sense. At the very least, it impairs motor coordination enough that you can't throw things at your television.

True, true. I was trying to avoid the structural stuff, because that's something he really doesn't have control over. He does, however, have control over what story gets told in the time that he has, so I refuse to give him a complete pass.

Oh my god, yes! See, that would be something he'd really excel at, no question. He's one of the few showrunners I'll generally praise for character development, so a script devoted to just the characters would be amazing.

Well, that depends. How long did you watch GH before breaking up permanently? Let's face it, you have trouble letting go, and you know you're curious about what sort of ass-pull they're going to do to bring Peter back into existence (they'll just remember him into existence, like Amy Pond!).

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empressearwig May 8 2011, 16:14:13 UTC
Yes. Not throwing things is always good ( ... )

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normative_jean May 9 2011, 17:02:41 UTC
Ah, fair enough. You're right, he can control what he writes when he knows he might have a limited amount of time in which to tell a story. So there's no excuse there.

Seriously! Things would be so much better if they just let us take over. The funny thing is, I had basically this exact same conversation with my grandmother last night, complete with residual Alias anger and requests for personal consultation before making storytelling decisions. So it's not just us or our generation. It's everyone.

Actually, you'll appreciate this. This is the conversation my grandmother and I had:

GRANDMA: Have you figured out the Fringe finale? Because I'm more confused now than I was Friday night.

ME: No, and the more I think about the time paradox, the less it makes sense. Also, he fails at grand storytelling.

GRANDMA: He, who?

ME: The showrunner for Fringe. He's also the guy who did Lost, the new Star Trek, Alias--

GRANDMA: Oh. HimME: You...watched Alias ( ... )

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sugarpromises May 8 2011, 18:26:05 UTC
I want to comment but nothing in this post has anything to do with me since I have note finished watching LOST and I have yet to jump on the Fringe bandwagon....

BUT I MISS YOU!!! I might be going to NYC in the near future!!!

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normative_jean May 9 2011, 17:03:58 UTC
Ok, lest you think I'm completely dumping on Lost, here's the thing about the final season: if you watch it as a character study, it is truly elevated television. If you watch it for science fictiony stuff or plot answers, you are SOL.

OMG YAY!!! When? I must have details!

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lapiccolina May 8 2011, 21:42:24 UTC
I love it when you post stuff like this. :)

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normative_jean May 9 2011, 17:05:02 UTC
Hee, you mean you love it when I get all red-faced and ranty? When I flail in rage against the world when my tv shows disappoint me? That stuff?

*smushes you*

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