mystery (misery) meat

[notnotabouthim]

I went out with Gala's folks last night to a rather fancy restaurant. There wasn't anything even vaguely raw on the menu, so I thought "ok, if I'm going to bust the raw thing for a night, I might as well go the whole hog".

So I ordered eye fillet.

Now, after giving life a lot of thought, I decided perhaps the best way to proceed was to follow the

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[lynnivere]

oh man.. *gulps & breathes intentionally*

I just scanned this & can already feel myself gettin' a gag reflex.. carnivore that I am. *gulps again*

I'll need to come back to this. I will. *nods*

Die-a-betus!

[theheretic]

Those people are crazy. Lucky for them, they're still in the denial stage so it won't kill them to skip their meds a few weeks. Me, I'd be dead in a day and a half at most. The reason their sugars go down is that food has no carbs. There's no food in that food. Its a starvation with minerals diet. Driving down their sugars is a no-duh consequence. It will also force them to burn fats for calories, which will unfortunately drive up their ketones and make them crazy and sick at the same time. Not so good. Plus, changing from a high-sugars habit to a low one can be rather dangerous, as well as emotionally trying. You can do it if you have a strong will, but they seem to have picked a bunch of weak willed addict types. Its more dramatic that way. I can't say I'm sympathetic for them. They're the lucky ones, after all. That young guy should probably be tested for Type 1 antibodies though. This thing could kill him if he's like me. Too late for him. Maybe he becomes a statistic, or gets a darwin award. The crazy caused by sugars being off

Re: Die-a-betus!

[notnotabouthim]

Wow.

If you watched it closely, you'd see that:

a) they had a full medical team there the whole time
b) they were getting complete checkups (at least) once a day
c) their blood sugar levels were being monitored VERY regularly
d) they started by eating raw AND taking their meds
e) they didn't take them off their meds until it was safe to do so
f) they didn't look particularly crazy OR sick - in fact, quite the opposite (although yes, they did detox and have to clear out quite a lot of crap)
g) after 30 days, even the medical experts were impressed with the change

Of course, nobody is telling you do make these sorts of changes in your life. You live exactly the life you want to. You get exactly the life you want.

That doesn't preclude other people from saying "hey, maybe there's something here", trying it out, and getting their own data points. Once they have that information, they can make an informed decision, for themselves. That's ok too.

Oh, and dude! Carbohydrates?!?

Re: Die-a-betus!

[theheretic]

Guess I should have watched further. Watching the fat woman angsting and the 22 yo muscle guy threatening to go to Mexico and whining about not having control... I know those feelings. That's not something you really cure, though once your sugars settle back down from your initial diagnosis levels (where they began this apparently), you will find major health improvements across the board. I'm hard pressed to understand how medical professionals could be surprised by this though, unless they're unfamiliar with Type 2 diabetes

Re: Die-a-betus!

[notnotabouthim]

Hehe. Yeah.

Sangrail made some really good points about Type 2 diabetics below. I also found a page which shows the people involved, and it's a mix of type 1 and 2, which is pretty interesting in itself.

I'm a firm believer in "Trust in God, but paddle away from the rocks." Ie, by all means try 'fringe stuff', but for gods sake, stay on your meds, and consult experts before you do anything crazy. In this case, that would translate to "Try the 30 day thing, but go see a doctor (or several) before you stop your medical stuff.. and keep it near you after just in case."

I certainly don't have all the answers, but I am finding some pretty intriguing areas that (I think) are worthy of more research.. which means either waiting X years for 'science' to get around to verifying it for you.. or trying it out and making your mind up yourself. The choice of which is entirely up to your personality, of course.

Unsurprisingly, I also believe it's possible to check out a lot of this wacky stuff without being a complete idiot about it. You're

[san_grail]

As far as the video goes, and re: surprise:
Uh, I'm not surprised , although mostly because it's misleading in indicating that it's news.
Huh, or just misleading.

Key-phrase: At 4 minutes along, he says 'How can you go from Insulin-dependent diabetes...'
Uh. They all have Type 2 diabetes. By definition, that's non-insulin dependent diabetes. Type 2 diabetes is generally caused by a bad diet (as opposed to Type 1, where you're just suddenly fucked).
The first line treatment is diet and exercise, especially weight loss for obese patients. Losing even 2-5kg is often enough to restore insulin sensitivity.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus_type_2

The conclusion that managing a diet-caused condition by changing the diet is... not exactly revolutionary.

[notnotabouthim]

Ahh, you see now, that's interesting.

So, I did a bit of hunting, and found this. Turns out it's actually a mix of type 1 & type 2 diabetes in the group.

Part of the problem is, the guy they're talking to at the start (who mentions type 2 diabetes)? That's David Wolfe, he's kind of a notorious raw food idiot. So he's talking about god knows what, and possibly nothing to do with what they were doing at all. You never really know with him. So yeah, that doesn't help.

[san_grail]

Oooo,
should re-cut the trailer.

(That is part of the reason I prefer to learn information via text, it's usually easier to check references etc).

The two patients with Type 1 diabetes are the ones that are interesting. Unlike Type 2 diabetes, Type 1 diabetes is not caused by diet, but to some extent, it can be managed by it.
Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune dysfunction, and does also have a range in severity, so some people just have an impaired ability to produce insulin, some people produce none.
Theoretically, if you could constantly keep your blood sugar levels under the point where your body would produce it's non-existent insulin, you could manage it. If you have absolutely none though, in practice... you probably couldn't.
If you had less severe Type 1 though (ie, were still producing a minimal amount of insulin) it might actually be practical

[notnotabouthim]

ok, I'm curious - why is eating many small meals a day bad for your teeth?

(interesting page you linked too)