Women

[nskbullseye11]

Some of y'all may have already seen this on my facebook but it seems to have stirred up some debate so I thought I'd bring it over here too

Comments

[secksychicken]

Just to be fair, women (at least all the non-psycho ones that I know) don't try to be subtle in letting a guy down in order to manipulate them or keep them on the back burner. They do that in order to avoid hurting anyone's feelings.

It may be better to be more straightforward, but their misled action has good intentions behind it. Often, what you described as "straightforward" is what some of us would describe as "harsh."

[nskbullseye11]

Harsh in this case means honest and trust me, he'll be better for it. You don't need to go to lengths but if you have no desire to be with him then you need to leave him without any hope for that. Otherwise he's just going to follow you around like a lost puppy.

[minorityduck]

Yay debates

[withonehandhigh]

sometimes honesty from a woman is met with defense from the man

[nskbullseye11]

But does that justify being less than honest with him? The guy is going to decide to be a man or not when he confronted with the truth, there's not much you can do about it, but you can decide whether you want to give him the respect of honesty or not.

[withonehandhigh]

sometimes it's just easier to keep ones mouth shut...no matter how self-sacrificing it is.

i mean, my example is only in relationships.
i fully believe in being honest with a guy in terms of letting him down.

[flooferz]

uhm...personally...i think im pretty fucking honest. It may take me a little bit to say what i wanna say, but once i get the balls i don't beat around the bush.

I think that everything you said...while it does have some truth, and is in fact meant to support a bigger, general idea of equality...is kinda based on stereotypes and maybe personal experience or observation of others.

Basically there are a lot of exceptions to everything you said. Intentions of both guys and ladies aren't usuallllllly meant to be manipulative...again...there are exceptions to this....but, overall, i think that relationships are complicated, no matter what someone will get hurt and be pissed and say something like "WAY TO LET ME DOWN EASY" if its obvious, or "WAY TO DRAG ME ALONG AND GIVE ME HOPE" if it's subtle.

I dont really know what im saying.

Ya know?

[nskbullseye11]

You are probably one of only a couple of close friends I haven't had to coach through a bad relationship issue so you can rest easy knowing I wouldn't lump you in with the rest as of now. You're right though that this has come from observations and personal experiences. I am speaking in terms of stereotypes because stereotypes aren't going away and so I just want them to be a little more even handed. I speak a lot about how men and women are seen and not necessarily how they are because it is the perceptions I wish to change. People are going to have childish responses no matter what but in the long run honesty is the best way for them to move on and grow as person, eventually helping them in future matters of the heart.

[flooferz]

here here

[sexysinger88]

I have boobs. I win.