The Problem with Being a Christian Liberal

[nytekit]

A few things do come up, but for me it always comes down to one thing: the loudest Christians are also the ones who are the most conservative and/or hateful. I didn't just use "and" because the two don't have to go together but when it's in the media, it often does. People attacking abortion clinics, pastors burning the holy books of other

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[hcolleen]

Strictly speaking, going only by the gospels, which is the only record of what Christ said we have (Christian means Christ like, nothing else), Churches should not be populated by the masses, should not take political stands, should not become rich, should not be in government but should call the government and its agents to task when they are not honestly carrying out their duties. Jesus is adamantly against all of these. He also wasn't discriminatory. Want support for all of these

[nytekit]

*applause*

I agree with you about about it becoming the religion of state. It made it so politicized you can barely tell the two apart (the belief part and the politics part).

You'll also notice I put "traditional marriage" in quotes in the post because traditional Biblical marriage is not what they think it is. I may be incorrect, but I don't think our current understanding of marriage was even mentioned until the New Testament. So let's try that excuse again.

[hcolleen]

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/opinion/article/Traditional-marriage-has-changed-a-lot-1196563.php an interesting article for you. "Traditional marriage" is both on the decline and has only been around for about a century.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20040329&slug=marriagehistory29m why historians hate the words 'traditional marriage' (hint: when and where?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage the fount of all knowledge (read what Luther thought of marriage).

[kyohana]

There is a reason that church and state (government) are separate. And I can't help but wonder when the politicians and others are going to realize it!

[nytekit]

It seems like never! It's like our country is getting more tied up in politics and religion compared to years past. I don't think it'd be as bad if we tolerated all religions equally but Christianity seems to be the only one given that courtesy.

[eliza2000]

*Applause*

IA. More Christians who act like Christians, please, and more people who think before they speak.

[tarynmercury]

I'm an atheist AND a republican. Go figure that one out! Ha! I understand what you mean because I have a few Christian friends who practice what Jesus told them. Non judgemental love. My best friend told me the other night that her preacher said that all LGBT should be lined up and shot. Seriously? A PREACHER said this! And yeah, it was a baptist preacher in the south.
I don't agree with Chick Fil A but I'm not going to stop eating there. I like the food. If we boycott everyone who has an opinion different than ours we'd be locked up in the house like hermits.

[nytekit]

I'm an atheist AND a republican.
Now THAT is interesting! I'm guessing you agree with them on economic issues and others, besides religion?

My thing with Chick-Fil-A is, first off all, I don't like their food so I don't eat there anyway. Second, I'm just confused as to why he felt the need to comment at all. I understand those are his beliefs but Chick-Fil-A is a business and he's not the only one who's going to be affected when a social stance is taken. I just don't think it makes sense. And a lot of franchise owners have apparently been trying to distance themselves from his comments for that same reason.

(I totally skipped over that comment from the preacher because I don't even know what to say to it. I just keep shaking my head every time I read it.)

[tarynmercury]

Yes, I switched my party to republican entirely due to economic issues. Those issues became more important to me than anything else. Really I should be independant party because I have such mixed views. I'm pro choice and pro gay marriage which are democratics issues. I don't know why we really need a party system anyway.

I agree. Why does a fast food chain have a stance on gay marriage and why did they have to let everyone know? All they did was kill a bunch of their business. They don't seem to care so whatever.

[nytekit]

I totally agree with you. I'm more liberal than the democratic party is but liberal isn't a party all on it's own. I feel like most people would be independent but seeing as we are on a party system, voting independent is almost like a wasted vote.