I finally saw the new Star Trek last night...

May 18, 2009 19:56

And I feel cheated. Kirk engaged in at least five fistfights over the course of the movie but did not deliver a single karate chop or double-fisted overhead smash.

But seriously... and spoiler alert )

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greycat May 19 2009, 00:18:41 UTC
BAH! I liked it! It was fun, engaging, emotional and interesting. No over the top ness, really, which always bothered me about the series. Granted, it was no Next generation, but it was very good and I enjoyed it a lot.

I really did like the whole "Hey ladies!" thing that Kirk did, no matter how messed up or sick he was. THAT'S what i think of when i think of the original series. That and...talking...like... THIS!

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oberstgreup May 19 2009, 00:46:23 UTC
I never said I didn't like it. I said I didn't like it as an attempt at a Star Trek film.

It may be something of a generational thing, too - you probably aren't old enough to remember when the original series was cool in a non-ironic sense.

And it was very over-the-top, just not the way the show was.

But Kirk - seriously, that guy is more than a little emotionally disturbed. Old Kirk hit on the ladies, but he would never in a million years assault them, or go around starting bar brawls like some junior-league Mickey Rourke. You don't put a hotheaded jerk like that in control of nuclear missiles, which is about our equivalent today.

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greycat May 19 2009, 01:06:41 UTC
Did Kirk assault a woman? I don't remember that.

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oberstgreup May 19 2009, 01:51:20 UTC
Arguably. IIRC, at one point in the bar fight he gets punched and spins around and is presumably reaching for the bar to catch himself when his hands encounter Urura's hooters instead. Whether the resulting smirk on his face indicated it was accidental-on-purpose is open to interpretation. It certainly indicates he's obnoxious and immature.

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ajohnymous May 23 2009, 02:47:13 UTC
I agree with pretty much everything you've said here. Maybe at 10, I didn't get every intellectual facet of TOS, but I understood the 'Star Trek universe'-- this movie wasn't it.

I also didn't like the powder-keg tempered, make out in public Spock. The Scotty plant on the same planet was equally ridiculous. And, the Romulans were pretty trite.

I didn't mind the new Chekhov, however.

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