Comments | obsession_inc: I think I'm PARANOID

obsession_inc

I think I'm PARANOID

Mar 13, 2009 18:29

Okay, listening to Shirley Manson, plus watching a show that's hitting all my XF-y dark paranoid sensibilities, plus the fact that there are huge black SUVs loitering in front of The House That Shall Not Be Named across the street (complete with guys in sunglasses and black suits) and the fact that my husband kind of accidentally stole one of their ( Read more... )

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cofax7 March 14 2009, 05:04:56 UTC

UNLOCK this thing, you! Why do you lock this? It needs to be shared!

Also, YAY that you have succumbed to the awesomeness of SCC! Urm, just in time for the end of it, I fear.

Excellent analysis, really. I really feel like I need to come down with mono or something so I can sit down and rewatch the entire run of the show. It's so SMART and layered.

obsession_inc March 14 2009, 05:22:00 UTC

Whoops! I actually didn't mean to have it flocked, I just forgot that was the default on this journal. Oops. Um, glad you liked it enough to complain, though ( ... )

amonitrate March 14 2009, 14:30:17 UTC

I'm a couple of weeks behind, but I'm happy you're getting into this show! When it's on, it's amazing.

that the whole bullshit trope of nice girls smile, you've got such a pretty smile, you should smile more is shown up and used and manipulated and how the men always fall for it. THANK YOU, SHOW!

not just this-- but when the show does it, it feels more alien and creepy than Cameron when she's being a machine, and I love that, too.

I love that the whole premise of the show is to change the future, which is as you said, completely different from the usual avoid-changing-things-because-we-might-destroy-the-universe trope. Thing is, in the future, civilization has already been destroyed. So what do the people of the present have to lose by trying to change it? Not much. Which is fascinating.

I'm with you: I think the key to changing the future will lie with Cameron and John Henry, and how the humans treat them.

obsession_inc March 16 2009, 21:04:27 UTC

Five bucks says that we get more of John Henry and Savannah chattering away at each other. Or possibly I'm just trying to bribe the universe because I want that so much, and because it would be yet another parallel to the Connor family relationships. But it would be SO CUTE and SO DISTURBING.

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obsession_inc March 16 2009, 21:01:14 UTC

Debate away; I've been utterly consumed by this show for days on end now and am willing to sacrifice the shallow joy of feeling unquestioned in the interests of having much more fun debating the show!

I adore that every time one of the female-shaped Terminators is acting "normal", it's as much a learned act for them as it is for human females. The first time we see Cameron, she's flirting with John ("I fooled you"); Cameron flirts with the guys in the bar before she sharks them at pool; Weaver flirts with Ellison the first time they meet. Granted, this also leads me to some uncomfortable ideas re: Terminators and sex, particularly with Vic and his "wife" in the equation. I'm not sure what to do with that.

But also that Sarah needs a grown-up relationship and please let it be with Derek. Please.Honestly, I feel like they're both too edgy and distrustful to have relationships with other people, particularly with I AM THE MOTHER OF THE SAVIOR OF HUMANITY and I AM A SOLDIER FROM THE FUTURE running neck-and-neck as very poor pick-up ( ... )

bibliolicious March 17 2009, 14:15:07 UTC

I adore that every time one of the female-shaped Terminators is acting "normal", it's as much a learned act for them as it is for human females.

Yes! What an excellent point, well made.

Oh show, how I love thee.

Great post, btw. I'm particularly taken with the parallel between the Turk/JH-as-chess-machine and Future!John as a chess player using real people. Sarah has more to do than simply stopping Skynet: she has to keep her son human.

obsession_inc March 18 2009, 16:03:01 UTC

Thanks! Yeah, the more I see this show the more concerned I get for Future!John; this last episode really gave me pause. I'm starting to think that at the end of this, Skynet will be stopped but John is going to go off to live in peace among the machines because they're the only ones he has anything in common with, and will end up as the savior of the machine race, not the human race. Which is ten kinds of even-more-creepy.

anatsuno March 16 2009, 20:30:06 UTC

Ph man, I'm super pleased that cofax7 linked to your AWESOME post! I'm just sitting there grinning and nodding my head. :D :D

obsession_inc March 16 2009, 21:02:45 UTC

Thank you!

mymatedave March 16 2009, 23:14:46 UTC

This show really is entirely awesome in its intricacies.

obsession_inc March 18 2009, 16:07:59 UTC

It really is, isn't it? This is just all the stuff that hit me when I was having a bout of insomnia and mainlined most of Season 1 the other night; I sat there scribbling weird cryptic notes onto the back of an envelope. I keep getting the feeling that it doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.