an interesting article

Apr 24, 2013 12:09

http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/04/22/177455764/What-Does-Modern-Prejudice-Look-Like

"I think that kind of act of helping towards people with whom we have some shared group identity is really the modern way in which ( Read more... )

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birdwatcher April 24 2013, 17:23:25 UTC
ochame April 24 2013, 17:28:59 UTC
OT: we started flute lessons! and it's partially yours and sasura's fault.

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birdwatcher April 24 2013, 17:29:53 UTC
Ого! Параллельно со скрипкой? У нас одна очень способная девочка играет на том и другом.

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ochame April 24 2013, 17:36:19 UTC
да, параллельно со скрипкой (и с фортепиано в некотором роде, хотя мы сбавили обороты).
нашей маме (это мне, значит) маловато заботы показалось :(

или это я так (subconsciously/subversively) пытаюсь никогда не resume нормальную карьеру

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ant_fugue April 24 2013, 17:32:29 UTC
Well, in fairness it's not so much "family and friends", but "social strata". Yale faculty versus quilter, both were total strangers to the doctor who changed the treatment course.

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ochame April 24 2013, 17:41:27 UTC
> Yale faculty versus quilter, both were total strangers to the doctor who changed the treatment course.

Isn't it terrible to be a quilter in such a situation? But if I were that doctor, I would do the same probably...

... also, I think the researchers are ignoring the reciprocity of this sort of mutual "help/love/friendship". You help your in-group because your in-group is more likely to help you. They didn't mention that aspect at all.

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ant_fugue April 24 2013, 18:01:15 UTC
Talking about discrimination, have you seen the last few posts in my LJ?

I don't think it's so much direct back-and-forth reciprocity that's causing this, but more of an instant identification of that person as "one of us" among educated professionals (re: quilter vs Yale faculty).

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ochame April 24 2013, 18:13:39 UTC
I have to take a look! I haven't been reading LJ much lately. Which is shocking, because I am practically not working outside of home now (little consulting "projects" don't count as work). Either I am not managing my time well, or... I don't know what it is actually, but I am insanely busy all the time (with kids, mostly - but also learning/studying, etc.)

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triz_wiz April 24 2013, 17:34:30 UTC
Я пришел разделить человека с отцом его, и дочь с матерью ее, и невестку со свекровью ее.

И враги человеку - домашние его.

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ochame April 24 2013, 17:43:26 UTC
>враги человеку

а ведь и правда - это религия такая (у рисёчеров). or something that looks very much like it.

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triz_wiz April 24 2013, 17:45:47 UTC
"There is no more sombre enemy of good art than the pram in the hall."

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snus_mumrick April 25 2013, 02:56:41 UTC
Мне кажется тут немного о другом. Если человек по какой-то причине ассоциирует себя с другим человеком то и отношение к тому человеку будет стартовать с положительной окраской, а не с нейтральной.

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ochame April 25 2013, 14:50:29 UTC
да, именно так - но ричерчеры делают следующий шаг и называют это дискриминацией:
Discrimination today is less about treating people from other groups badly, DiTomaso writes, and more about giving preferential treatment to people who are part of our "in-groups."

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