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ocyn

Politics Not as Usual

Nov 03, 2005 10:13

Wow, it's all happening so fast! The indictments last week, with Patrick Fitzgerald being all Eliot Ness-like. (Karl Rove is confirmed as the source of the leak. Surely he can't stay in his position much longer.) Tuesday, Harry Reid closed down the Senate with a resounding speech (well worth reading) about Republican corruption and collusion that ( Read more... )

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calebbullen November 3 2005, 16:26:22 UTC

And just for non-partisan kicks, there's also the Gulf of Tonkin coverup story that came out this week and seems eerily similar to another war that is a quagmire and was fought based on trumped up evidence.

ocyn November 3 2005, 17:12:58 UTC

Ooh, I hadn't heard about that. Link?

calebbullen November 3 2005, 17:19:24 UTC

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/10/31/MNG99FGN521.DTL

I heard about it on Air America and then it was in the Cleveland Plain Dealer the next day.

ocyn November 3 2005, 17:20:39 UTC

Well, dayum! I'd heard about this sort of thing with regard to Pearl Harbor, but Vietnam too? Wow...

kelabration November 3 2005, 16:34:19 UTC

It's all a bit overwhelming to have all this smacking Bush and his buddies in the face at once. I don't know which one makes my smile brighter. Let's just hope that it's all used properly to bring them down and into prison.

ocyn November 3 2005, 17:13:11 UTC

You said it!

robiwho November 3 2005, 16:43:06 UTC

Honestly, winning the World Series and all this happening within the same week is almost more than this girl can handle. Who needs Christmas?

ocyn November 3 2005, 17:13:23 UTC

Haha! I hear that!

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ocyn November 3 2005, 17:19:24 UTC

Hey, I was hoping you'd weigh in!

I'm reading things (unsubstantiated) that Rove's lawyers had a 90-minute sit-down with Fitzgerald the day before the indictments came out. I don't think Fitzgerald is dirty--quite the opposite--and I don't think he could be scared into dropping charges before they were made, but I wouldn't put anything past Rove. What a nasty, nasty man.

As to the Dems, I'm just happy that they've finally found some backbone (or, according to Jon Stewart, another body part). I'm not buying the "temper tantrum" spin the right wing is trying, though. I think it was a brilliant and necessary move.

When it all comes down to it, I don't care if action is started by Reps or Dems. I just want people to start doing the right thing instead of kowtowing to their party line, whatever that may be.

calebbullen November 3 2005, 17:27:25 UTC

How is the leak not against the law? I'm no legal scholar but http://foi.missouri.edu/bushinfopolicies/protection.html the way I read that law, cited above, it sure seems like what Irving Libbey and Karl Rove did was illegal.

It does seem like Rove in going back time and again to clarify his previous testimony will skate on the perjury charge but I don't get how what they did isn't intentionally disclosing information identifying a covert agent to an individual not
authorized to receive classified information.

calebbullen November 3 2005, 17:31:33 UTC

Also, as for receiving the info once, that's really not fair. It was supposed to be a two part investigation but they never did the second part. I know I sound like a paleo-con when I say this but seems like if you make an agreement to do something, you're bound by honor to make good on that agreement.

Or am I missing something?