Also ... in diesem Fall bin ich aber trotzdem auf der Seite der Lehrer/Erzieher. Wenn mir jemand sagt, dass ein Kind eine Pflanze gegessen hat und ich nicht GANZ GANZ sicher sein kann, dass es was Harmloses ist (zum Beispiel wenn man gerade in einem Schul-Gemüsegarten ist oder sowas), dann würde ich auch übervorsichtig reagieren. Denn selbst wenn das Kind keinen bleibenden Schaden davon trägt, kann es die Karriere des Lehreres zerstören, wenn die Eltern entsprechende Anzeige wegen Vernachlässigung der Aufsichtspflicht UND unterlassener Hilfeleistung erstatten. (Denn ja, es gibt solche Eltern.)
Müssen sie nicht zuerst die Eltern informieren? Also zumindest dann, wenn das Kind nicht grade blau anläuft oder Blut spritzt ... Wenigstens bei uns ist das die Regel.
Informieren, ja. Aber wenn die Eltern nicht erreichbar sind, müssen sie ja trotzdem eine Entscheidung treffen. Möglichst eine sinnvolle.
(Fairerweise muss ich sagen, dass sich heute herausgestellt hat, dass sie der Schwiegermutter schon gesagt haben, der Kinderarzt hätte schon zu und unser Krankenhaus habe keine Kinderklinik. Das haben sie nämlich in der Wartezeit schon ergoogelt. Aber offenbar hat sie das überhaupt nicht wahrgenommen und ist dann trotzdem hingefahren. Dafür kann ich natürlich nicht den Erzieherinnen die Schuld geben. ^^)
Yes, and that was the kinder's fault. They should have asked him, and then keep calm. I suppose that a visit to the kinder's medical center would have sufficed.
Oh, no, how distressing for all concerned! Very glad Julian is fine. I sure hear you about people not knowing anything about the plants around them - once I was stuffing my face with yummy ripe mulberries, when a lady came by and told her kid they were poisonous. I told her if that was true, I'd have been dead for decades. What I taught MY kid was that any berry with drupelets is safe to eat; if it doesn't have drupelets, you have to ask first. Most adults don't even know what a drupelet is.
"the Kindergarten teachers, who didn't just ask Julian which part of the plant he ate, and/or didn't believe him."One of my little girlies once may or may not have eaten a seed of Scotch broom. She was almost three; her five-year-old sister told on her for it (good girl!) but wasn't sure if she'd really eaten it or not. Poor little Theresa was afraid she was in trouble, so her story started switching: yes she had, no she hadn't.... and Scotch broom seeds are extremely toxic; the Poison Control Center told me that if she HAD eaten just one, by the
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*falling about laughing* My Lj just asked me, "Translate this page? - I'm, like, okay, because my German is not so good, but then I see it's also translated my English to 'English':"I sure hear you about the plants around them - once I was stuffing my face with yummy ripe mulberries when they were kidnapped. I told her that was true, I've been dead for decades." LOL, um, no.....
There is no actual "no foraging" rule! It's just an "don't eat unripe things or things you don't know". Since Julian knew Impatiens, he didn't strictly violate the rule
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Yeah. I suppose that's what I ought to tell myself! Thank you.
(The thing is, I never actually did in-depth studies of botany. My grandmother was a pharmacist, trained in the classical way (i.e. before a lot of synthetic replacements were widely available), so she showed us all sorts of medicinal plants in our surroundings. I was a girl scout and learned some bushcraft as a teenager. And then I started gardening and just grew enamoured with foraging and wildflower cuisine. So one thing just came to another. But I only know the plants of my region. I'd be as clueless as anyone in a foreign environment.)
I agree the teachers should have found out what he had eaten for if it were something deadly, not knowing would be dangerous or he could have eaten dandelions which you can put in salad.
A couple of years ago I was gathering blackberries and a child asked me what I was doing. She said "Aren't they poison?" Do children learn nothing these days and think food grows in supermarkets?
Lots of people think dandelions are poisonous, too, when it's only the stems and the white juice that's a problem!
Blackberries? They don't even recognise blackberries anymore? Good grief! I do tell me kids to be wary of berries they don't know, because there are plenty of poisonous ones. But they know the edible berries in their environment.
My mom and I had someone look at us weird and ask, "Are they edible?!" when we were eating mulberries off the tree (huge black mulberries they were ;))
P.S. She and I tried dandelion greens in salad once, actually; didn't care for the flavor. I hear nettles are good when cooked ;)
Nettles are delicious when cooked; among the easiest and tastiest of wild foods. They're best at their youngest, when they've first emerged. Gather them with gloves and scissors; steam or boil them like spinach - anything cooked spinach can do, cooked nettles can do better! They're yummy just plain, with a little salt and butter. I press them with a spoon, chop them fine, add them to pasta sauce, then freeze the sauce, so I'll have some all year. Some people dry them, powder them, and add them to dishes that way.
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(Fairerweise muss ich sagen, dass sich heute herausgestellt hat, dass sie der Schwiegermutter schon gesagt haben, der Kinderarzt hätte schon zu und unser Krankenhaus habe keine Kinderklinik. Das haben sie nämlich in der Wartezeit schon ergoogelt. Aber offenbar hat sie das überhaupt nicht wahrgenommen und ist dann trotzdem hingefahren. Dafür kann ich natürlich nicht den Erzieherinnen die Schuld geben. ^^)
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"the Kindergarten teachers, who didn't just ask Julian which part of the plant he ate, and/or didn't believe him."One of my little girlies once may or may not have eaten a seed of Scotch broom. She was almost three; her five-year-old sister told on her for it (good girl!) but wasn't sure if she'd really eaten it or not. Poor little Theresa was afraid she was in trouble, so her story started switching: yes she had, no she hadn't.... and Scotch broom seeds are extremely toxic; the Poison Control Center told me that if she HAD eaten just one, by the ( ... )
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LOL, um, no.....
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*Hugs*
(also, I'm impressed by your in-depth knowledge of botany)
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Thank you.
(The thing is, I never actually did in-depth studies of botany. My grandmother was a pharmacist, trained in the classical way (i.e. before a lot of synthetic replacements were widely available), so she showed us all sorts of medicinal plants in our surroundings. I was a girl scout and learned some bushcraft as a teenager. And then I started gardening and just grew enamoured with foraging and wildflower cuisine. So one thing just came to another. But I only know the plants of my region. I'd be as clueless as anyone in a foreign environment.)
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Still, that's very good re: your region's plants :)
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A couple of years ago I was gathering blackberries and a child asked me what I was doing. She said "Aren't they poison?" Do children learn nothing these days and think food grows in supermarkets?
Sorry you had such a fright.
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Lots of people think dandelions are poisonous, too, when it's only the stems and the white juice that's a problem!
Blackberries? They don't even recognise blackberries anymore? Good grief! I do tell me kids to be wary of berries they don't know, because there are plenty of poisonous ones. But they know the edible berries in their environment.
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P.S. She and I tried dandelion greens in salad once, actually; didn't care for the flavor. I hear nettles are good when cooked ;)
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