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Apr 26, 2007 16:08

"We are one signature away from ending the Iraq War. President Bush must listen to the will of the American people and sign this bill so that our troops can come home."...

"All of us have been touched by the heroic sacrifices troops have made in service to our country. With the stroke of a pen, President Bush can bring them home to the families who ( Read more... )

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anaisdjuna April 26 2007, 20:46:19 UTC

Yeah. You go Barack!!!!

And success to Kucinich too who brought up articles of impeachment against Cheney!!!

XOXO

ommango April 30 2007, 21:45:34 UTC

besitos...that is a new one that I learned. Little kisses. And a pleasant teacher to introduce me to the word, but I am keeping mum on that.

foxglovehp April 26 2007, 22:23:33 UTC

Sounds good. I'm all for going home.

But then what? Seriously. What happens if we all leave here tomorrow? And no cop outs like "it was a mistake, we shouldn't be here, Bush lied, yadda, yadda." (oh yeah, I almost forgot -Haliburton!!)

Let's say we leave tomorrow, or even in March '08. What happens then? Has anyone thought this through?

inhumandecency April 27 2007, 09:47:50 UTC

Has anyone thought through what happens if we stay? It might change the whole tone of the debate if there were a reality-based plan on either side.

foxglovehp April 27 2007, 23:02:13 UTC

Nice rejoinder, but still doesn't answer the question ( ... )

inhumandecency April 27 2007, 23:26:17 UTC

Yes, you're right. I was being glib in my original comment. On the other hand, I think that people who disagree with you might be more persuaded by a presentation of the good points of the current plan, rather than a criticism of the (lack of) alternatives. This is important because one could say that the document you linked to doesn't really constitute a plan -- if they believed that it was based more on propaganda and wishful thinking than on a realistic assessment of the situation. A lot of people believe that, and in that system of beliefs, the costs of leaving Iraq don't really matter. The costs will accrue eventually anyway and the benefits of staying are nil. More generally: it's hard to change someone's mind when they have finite faith in one alternative (leaving), and zero faith in another (staying). First convince them that the second alternative has some value, and then you can start sapping their faith in the first ( ... )

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