OOTP RE-READ (CHAPTERS 4-6)

[amypond]

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[piepeloe]

I love the dynamic during the dinner scene where it's seemingly Molly vs Sirius, but there's also Arthur and Remus chiming in and all the kids having their say. It's kind of a dirty tactic of Sirius to bring up the subject when the Weasley kids are there, when he knows how Molly feels about it. He has some say about Harry, but none about Ron and the others. On the other hand, nothing dangerous was said. Though I do wonder how far Sirius (and Remus) would have gone on if Molly hadn't interrupted

[cerseilannister]

IA about Sirius. As I've gotten older, I've started siding with Molly in this issue. Idk if it was right to tell Harry all that so soon without discussing things with the rest of the Order and Dumbledore. Not saying that it wasn't important for Harry to know, but it doesn't seem appropriate to tell him right then and there.

[piepeloe]

I don't know who I side with. I can see why she wouldn't want him to know, he is a child after all, no matter what he thinks. The adults should be fighting the war and try to keep the kids out of it. However, he was going to find out a lot of this stuff anyway, so it's best if he finds out from a decent source. Besides, not much was really said in the end, except for that one hint about the prophecy. I mean, the fact that both the DEs and the Order were keeping track of each other and looking for more followers seems pretty obvious

[cerseilannister]

That's a good point, I agree. I mean, he nearly divulged some really important information to a bunch of teenagers and kids that aren't his. Sirius should've planned a private discussion if he wanted to tell Harry the details.

[cerseilannister]

This is probably one of my favorite sections of OotP. Sirius was probably my second favorite character at the time of the release so I really enjoyed learning/seeing more about him and his background even if it wasn't that pleasant.
The heads on the walls really creeped me out then and now tbh.

[amypond]

the blacks are so messed up lol, i love it. one thing that never made sense to me though was the fact that walburga died after sirius was already imprisoned, right? and yet her portrait still hates him and calls him a blood traitor etc. i would have thought, given they were death eater sympathizers, she'd be happy abt that. maybe it's bc she knew there's no way sirius could be a death eater since she raised him lol?

one of my fave bits is the scene where molly and sirius are arguing and molly says "he's not james, sirius"
bc i think that sirius was fully aware harry was his own person but i also think that he would sometimes project james' image onto him as well

[cerseilannister]

I never even put that together lol. That could be it. I don't know, Walburga seems to know a lot of things even tho she's dead, like the ppl in her house aren't pureblood. Maybe there's some spidey sense telling her st and Sirius fails hard.
Sirius absolutely projected James on Harry. I'm fairly certain a part of him really did want Harry to be like James, even if he didn't really acknowledge it himself. I don't know how well he got to grieve after they died, being in Azkaban and all.

[piepeloe]

Don't Harry and Sirius later on have a fight where Harry doesn't want to do something reckless and Sirius accuses him of 'not being like James after all'? I definitely do think there are times when Sirius sees Harry less like a godson he needs to protect and more like the perfect candidate to replace James. Not all the time, but he does have bad moments. It's completely understandable considering he was never really allowed to grieve his friend or adjust to this new role.

[ludagurl3d]

I really love the scene at dinner. Really one of the best moments of dialogue between the main characters in the series.

If only Dumbledore had been there, but of course, he's avoiding Harry like he's carrying the bubonic plague. * grumble* Foolish old man. Ironically, as much as Dumbledore angers me in this book, this is also the book I came to love him in, and really take notice. Before this book, I found him dull, and a run of the mill mentor..blah, blah, blah. But his explanation at the end for why he avoided Harry all year (because he truly cares, y'all!) made him suddenly human, not to mention a bit more shady, to me.

eta: I also loved finding out that the Blacks and Malfoys are related and that Draco is related to Sirius. Poor Harry lol. It's makes everything in the HP world feel like, "it's a small world after all." Love it.

[saikaro_x]

IA, Dumbledore becomes so much more interesting in this book. When he cries when he realizes how much Harry has been thru. ;_;