jason posted something a while back about all of these settlers back in the 1880's mysteriously dying in large quantities. they called the plague 'ship fever,' i believe? the bodies were buried on the east side near the lake... and as the years passed, the settlers moved further east... and the bodies were never exhumed. i'd say a great deal of the city rests atop graves.
It's so creepy. I might sound morbid but I think that they should have plaques or something, people should know. It won't change where anyone lives but it's only fair, to us and to the people buried there.
in college i did a paper on the brady street area. there was a cemetary at humboldt and brady. it's where they used to bury the poor people in unmarked graves. it always skeeves me out when i walk across that intersection to think about it.
Also, the area underneath Redroom housed a potters field for a wave of immigrants that died from "ship fever" aka typhoid in the early 1800s.
There are lots of cemetaries in Europe and the middle east that have been built over. Apart from the anthropological perspective, I don't see why we are supposed to view abandoned mass graves from the Indians as "sacred", in the way that we view, say, Arlington that way.
I think there has to be a dividing line somewhere. Otherwise, we'd never be able to study Ice Age mummies or Phonecian kings' graves, etc.
Redroom even...sigh... It bothers me because these sites were not abandoned by the Native Americans, their land was taken. It's one thing if hundreds of years pass and people forget, that happens everywhere. But these places were recorded, mapped, studied. And they just didn't care. The worst example I can think of would be Forest Home Cemetery, it's built above Indian Mounds. Most of the soldiers buried at Arlington are Christian; Christians believe that the spirit leaves the body after death and in Christian cultures graveyards function more out of necessity. To the Native Americans, the spirit is in everything, and they constructed burial mounds with similar motives as the Ancient Egyptians.
Indiana: haunted or just horribly flattdaschelMay 22 2007, 04:53:39 UTC
early one morning i was in the passenger seat of a moving van, cab full of cats, on a major highway passing through a piece, i think, of Indiana. the Minister's Daughter was at the wheel, wore out from talking about what i don't remember.
"i need to pull over." "you want i should drive?" "pull .. over .. now."
i think she threw up (coffee, some unpleasant "chinese" from Kansas). strange feeling indeed !
...on the other hand, maybe there are great swaths of haunted land (ethnic cleansing tends to do that). i'm recalling some information from Gone to Croatan, nicely summarized here.
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jason posted something a while back about all of these settlers back in the 1880's mysteriously dying in large quantities. they called the plague 'ship fever,' i believe? the bodies were buried on the east side near the lake... and as the years passed, the settlers moved further east... and the bodies were never exhumed. i'd say a great deal of the city rests atop graves.
pretty creepy.
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my landlord told me the lot next to my house used to be a civil war encampment.
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Here's a link...this page is incredible. So much history.
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/wlhba/searchResults.asp?adv=yes&mhd=Indians+and+Native+Peoples&shd=Other
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There are lots of cemetaries in Europe and the middle east that have been built over. Apart from the anthropological perspective, I don't see why we are supposed to view abandoned mass graves from the Indians as "sacred", in the way that we view, say, Arlington that way.
I think there has to be a dividing line somewhere. Otherwise, we'd never be able to study Ice Age mummies or Phonecian kings' graves, etc.
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It bothers me because these sites were not abandoned by the Native Americans, their land was taken. It's one thing if hundreds of years pass and people forget, that happens everywhere. But these places were recorded, mapped, studied. And they just didn't care. The worst example I can think of would be Forest Home Cemetery, it's built above Indian Mounds.
Most of the soldiers buried at Arlington are Christian; Christians believe that the spirit leaves the body after death and in Christian cultures graveyards function more out of necessity. To the Native Americans, the spirit is in everything, and they constructed burial mounds with similar motives as the Ancient Egyptians.
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who knew?
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"i need to pull over."
"you want i should drive?"
"pull .. over .. now."
i think she threw up (coffee, some unpleasant "chinese" from Kansas). strange feeling indeed !
...on the other hand, maybe there are great swaths of haunted land (ethnic cleansing tends to do that). i'm recalling some information from Gone to Croatan, nicely summarized here.
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