I'll volunteer to be the audience-wrangler/facilitator for the anatomy thing next year. Mainly this would be minding the door, moving on from question to question, being the 'bad cop' to the problem children, etc. Say, the 'moderator
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I agree about achilles rupture being catastrophic in a bi-digi, though it's pretty spectacular in all of the other setups as well -- in terms of THAT leg being nonfunctional for the most part.
I think a big part of the conversation here is outside my fine-detail training. While I can discuss the anatomy that is found today in nature and the function of those muscles, it's outside my realm to talk at a meaningful technical level about the physics of an altered system.
I also wonder about just how useful it is to try to talk about things more than simple flexion/extension and the basic anatomy of the situation. I think what I let happen (that I shouldn't have) is a redirection away from the basics to the theoretical. It put me in unsteady territory, especially in the sense that at that point I'm not much more an expert witness than anyone else. :)
I appreciate the thoughts, though, and it's something I'll probably pick your brain about in the not-too-distant future.
Something I've come to realize is that my peculiar gift in life is becoming unfoolish (although not by any means world class) about any given topic in about 3 months.
How bodies and bones fit together is at some point mechanical engineering anyway. I think the main issue is what exactly you want to communicate - is the whole deal just 'don't try to explain the digi as though you can actually make it work'.?
I think that how *I* want to handle the digi discussion is to stop making it an argument at all. I should stick to pointing out the differences between the two present styles of anatomy (biped and quad) and indicate that somwhere in the middle is the answer, and leave it at that. :)
Yeah, and by the way, I was amazed that you did the two things back to back. That's freaking hardcore. I've done similar things just once in my life and it's megarough.
The right breakdown, if you wanna do 3, I think, is:
* Anthro anatomy
* First Aid & Basic Pet care
* What does it look like inside a dog? (surgery pix).
Room for 60 for the anthro anatomy, and a couple co-panelists and a bouncer/facilitator. 30 for the other two.
Re: I missed yer panels :(otterdocJune 20 2006, 04:38:27 UTC
Yes, I am! :) I can send you the pdf file of my presentation on the emergencies and pet health topics (as soon as I get it tightened up to a smaller file size). Let me know what email address you'd like to have me send it to. :)
... as always, my offer for avian help stands :p :) And yes, I did bring flight up just to be a pain in the butt (is there something i missed with how everyone groaned?).
My one suggestion might be to have some way to get questions from the audience before the panel starts - perhaps set up some way to have them emailed in before the con, or even just placed in a box somewhere in one of the public areas before the panel starts - then go through and pick out the top questions, so that you have a better idea as far as how to organize the time - plus it gives you a chance to edit out the retarded questions like mine ;)
Your questions were really good and I'll take all of the help I can get when it comes to birds! :) By the way, if I DIDN'T answer the flight things, ask me again and we can poke at the ideas!
I think i've pretty much figured out the flight thing... the biggest challenge is a) making the body light enough to BE lifted / making the wings large and strong enough to provide lift (plus the corollary of determining what kind of flight - soaring, acrobatic, marathon distance...), and b) providing enough chest space / surface for the muscles to move and attach. Oversimplification, but it all boils down to c) close only counts in horse shoes, hand grenades, and anthro anatomy :p ;)
I'd just like to say the Anthro anatomy panel was one of the highlights of my con experience.
On a related note, I'm in the early stages of putting together an anthro art tutorial site. I'd like to do a series of anthro anatomy articles and I'd love to have your input on the subject. If you're interested or have any questions, feel free to let me know.
Wow, hey, that means a lot to me! I really didn't feel that this panel was all that good, but if you got something out if it, I'm happy!
I'd love to contribute any information I have to the page you're putting together. Let me know what topic areas you're interested in having me write about and I'll see what I can do!
Feel free to email me at otterdoc.ac @ comcast . net
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I think a big part of the conversation here is outside my fine-detail training. While I can discuss the anatomy that is found today in nature and the function of those muscles, it's outside my realm to talk at a meaningful technical level about the physics of an altered system.
I also wonder about just how useful it is to try to talk about things more than simple flexion/extension and the basic anatomy of the situation. I think what I let happen (that I shouldn't have) is a redirection away from the basics to the theoretical. It put me in unsteady territory, especially in the sense that at that point I'm not much more an expert witness than anyone else. :)
I appreciate the thoughts, though, and it's something I'll probably pick your brain about in the not-too-distant future.
-M.
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How bodies and bones fit together is at some point mechanical engineering anyway. I think the main issue is what exactly you want to communicate - is the whole deal just 'don't try to explain the digi as though you can actually make it work'.?
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I should stick to pointing out the differences between the two present styles of anatomy (biped and quad) and indicate that somwhere in the middle is the answer, and leave it at that. :)
-M.
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The right breakdown, if you wanna do 3, I think, is:
* Anthro anatomy
* First Aid & Basic Pet care
* What does it look like inside a dog? (surgery pix).
Room for 60 for the anthro anatomy, and a couple co-panelists and a bouncer/facilitator. 30 for the other two.
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Anatomy/physio (2nd hour for surgery pix)
First Aid / Care
Both at 2 hours with a little break between hours 1 and 2 ; and NOT back to back, would also work, I think.
-m.
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Are you a vet?
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I can send you the pdf file of my presentation on the emergencies and pet health topics (as soon as I get it tightened up to a smaller file size).
Let me know what email address you'd like to have me send it to. :)
-M.
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my email is miscmusings at yahoo dot com
Love to have it
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Feel free to email. :)
I'll send you a copy of the file as soon as I get it together!
-M.
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My one suggestion might be to have some way to get questions from the audience before the panel starts - perhaps set up some way to have them emailed in before the con, or even just placed in a box somewhere in one of the public areas before the panel starts - then go through and pick out the top questions, so that you have a better idea as far as how to organize the time - plus it gives you a chance to edit out the retarded questions like mine ;)
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By the way, if I DIDN'T answer the flight things, ask me again and we can poke at the ideas!
-M.
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On a related note, I'm in the early stages of putting together an anthro art tutorial site. I'd like to do a series of anthro anatomy articles and I'd love to have your input on the subject. If you're interested or have any questions, feel free to let me know.
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I'd love to contribute any information I have to the page you're putting together. Let me know what topic areas you're interested in having me write about and I'll see what I can do!
Feel free to email me at otterdoc.ac @ comcast . net
-M.
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