Do you guys know what I hate~

Jul 17, 2012 23:42


When I'm browsing through youtube videos of a favourite character or another, and inevitably there will be arguments of "were they gay/were they not gay" in the comments. Inevitably, these will be polarizing arguments. Inevitably, also, the detractors are just utterly convinced that there would have been officially-kept records of, say, two guys ( Read more... )

i should stop expecting so much, randomness, history

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anactoria July 17 2012, 23:36:21 UTC
[insert clapping .gif here]

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oudeteron July 18 2012, 18:34:16 UTC
Ha, thanks! I know just which one to imagine.

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mustntgetmy July 17 2012, 23:41:47 UTC
Apart from 4chan, YouTube is where the refuse of humanity goes to spill its guts so yeah...I'm all for abolishing comments there.

That said - seriously? Records? Why, throughout a history that is largely unaccepting of two men or women sleeping together, would anyone want to keep records of something that might get them put in jail or worse? And you know even if there were records it wouldn't be "official" to these commenters unless the historical figure clearly checked off a box that said "gay" or some such nonsense.

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oudeteron July 18 2012, 18:42:08 UTC
I've never been brave enough to set foot into 4chan. But the legends sure are something.

I KNOW, RIGHT? Considering a lot of the historical people I'm interested in had some power interest going on, it's really unlikely that even if something did happen, they'd want to be handing potential opponents ammunition (unless the culture in question was accepting, but even then, risk it). I absolutely hate the fact that no matter what tactic you use, you're going to wind up with some sort of disadvantage or erasure if you're LGBTQ.

And you know even if there were records it wouldn't be "official" to these commenters unless the historical figure clearly checked off a box that said "gay" or some such nonsense.
Pretty much. Their worldview is that "gay is never canon, even when it's canon." :/

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mustntgetmy July 18 2012, 23:34:30 UTC
Funny story: one of my IRL friends is dating a guy who's friends with one of the 4chan founders. So I indirectly know the creator of that madness!

How do people not realize this! Particularly when, as they comment on whether or not someone was gay, they're standing in the role of persecutor. Though I guess that's they're privilege talking...as always.

We can't ruin the memory of these otherwise perfect historical figures after all!!!11!!

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oudeteron July 19 2012, 18:39:52 UTC
...okay, that's simultaneously amazing and unsettling. XD

Particularly when, as they comment on whether or not someone was gay, they're standing in the role of persecutor.
This! The worst thing about privilege is that everyone seems to be aware of the fact it exists...except for those who have it in a particular area. Those people seem to be the most keen to tell you to shut up about the fact that they're privileged.

And don't get me started; I hate the idea that being 100% straight is "perfect" and everything else a "blemish" on that supposed "perfection".

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rydain July 18 2012, 00:32:02 UTC
Yeah, seriously. The basics of sexual orientation aren't hard to understand, nor is the concept that one can have attractions or relationships without them being chiseled in stone for the benefit of various knuckle draggers umpty years later. I'm convinced that most YouTube comments came out of a keysmash to text translator.

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oudeteron July 18 2012, 18:44:00 UTC
Agreed so much. And the keysmash-to-text translation would explain so many things.

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kohl_eyed July 18 2012, 02:17:07 UTC
Instead of abolishing YouTube comments, you could translate them into harmless gibberish!

http://laughingsquid.com/herp-derp-for-youtube-convert-youtube-comments-to-gibberish/

My policy is to think of everyone as queer until proven otherwise, which is just as bad as the other stance, I suppose, but helpful as far as maintaining my sanity goes. Because fuck heteronormativity.

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oudeteron July 18 2012, 18:48:18 UTC
I admit, now that I know about the origin of the phrase "herp derp" I'm not thrilled that that's what they picked for this extension, but I would be all over one that actually gave you keyboardsmash. Or an endless repetition of "WE ARE X". /bricked

Haha, mine as well! Or rather, I just assume everyone could be anything until they declare themselves to be of one sexuality in particular. Shockingly, most people don't see the point in declaring that all over the place, so I can but stick with my initial non-assumption! And problem bloody solved.

Compulsory heterosexuality is the worst.

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cherrytruck July 18 2012, 17:50:52 UTC
cherrytruck July 18 2012, 18:31:32 UTC
oudeteron July 18 2012, 18:33:41 UTC
Indeed, I KALLED UPON IT AND IT RESPONDED

/shot

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oudeteron July 18 2012, 18:32:57 UTC
GAHHH WHY IS YOUR TROLLING SO...I'M NOT GONNA SAY AUTHENTIC BUT YOU CAN IMPERSONATE THOSE ASSHOLES REALLY WELL.

XD

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