Dreamwidth GRRRR

[outsidetheparty]

Ok, it's becoming clear that approximately half of the people I'm friends with here are ultimately going to move to Dreamwidth, and half are not. Some are crossposting, and some are not, and some are doing it only for certain types of posts, and basically for someone who just wants to see what his friends are up to it's all just about as

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[sylvantechie]

Basically, I'm dealing with it (or failing to deal with it, as the case may be), by being a bit sad that I'll probably miss out on some stuff because it'll be posted at DW.

I'm not switching because
1) it's a pain in the butt to change habits
2) I have a lot of other things I want and/or need to do with my time than spend hours and hours getting a new account set up somewhere and dealing with all the content transfer et al
3) many of my LJ friends are not of the greater berkshire crowd and as far as I can tell DW isn't even a faint blip at the outermost edge of their radar
4) and finally, I'm not actually unhappy with LJ

I guess at some point I'll do the openid thing or something...

[magdalene1]

I'm with you. I've tried to use OpenID to comment on some x-posted stuff, and it's invariably a pain, and by the time I get it to work I forgot what I was going to say anyway. I wish DW all the best, will have to keep up with my friends who move on some other way. Maybe the telephone...

[kassrachel]

I guess my question is, how is using openid to comment on a dreamwidth post any different from using openid to comment on a blogger or typepad post? When I comment on the blogs of people who don't use the same blogging service I do, I have to log in to leave a comment. I don't think it's that high a bar, but obviously I'm failing to understand something, because some of y'all clearly feel that it's too much to ask. Is it that we have a different expectation of livejournal and its code forks / clones, so that we've grown accustomed to logging in to one place and then never having to log in again?

[magdalene1]

I think you are right about expectations

[kassrachel]

Yeah, I'm sorry it's annoying. I do think it's bound to be a bit exasperating during the transitional period we're in now -- DW is in open beta but not yet out of beta altogether, and a lot of people are still figuring out what we're going to do.

My own intention is to continue cross-posting, but eventually to consolidate comments there, because it annoys me that when I post now, the comments thread is inevitably bifurcated. It's not ideal for those who are staying on livejournal (you'll have to do the openID thing to comment), but it's the best solution for me. *g*

As far as why I'm happier on dreamwidth? A few reasons:

- I know the people who started dreamwidth, and I trust them, and I no longer trust SUP (the company that bought livejournal)

- I like DW's diversity statement and their guiding principles- every few years, livejournal decides to delete fannish journals because we're too porny or too...whatever for their advertisers; that's disruptive to me and it pisses me off and I'd rather put my money (and my fic) somewhere

[kassrachel]

and some are doing it only for certain types of posts,

btw, as far as I've seen, I'm the only person who's done that, and I only did it once, and I'm not going to do it again.

[kcobweb]

I got the DW account Just In Case, and transferred over my archives Just In Case. But I haven't used it at all since. Haven't even bothered to cross-post, actually.

I want to keep in touch with many many people who are staying put (as far as I can tell) on LJ, and so far, nearly everyone is cross-posting to LJ, so I'm just checking LJ for now. I have a bookmark to DW, but it's buried way over in a long list of stuff - and I haven't been motivated to move it, because why? Mostly I can't be bothered.

Mostly, I guess I agree with sylvantechie. It's nice to know that my journal and all the comments are archived elsewhere in case LJ blows up. But otherwise, meh.

[ethicsgradient]

Boycott your friends that don't use a system that provides RSS feeds.

[kassrachel]

Dreamwidth Studios has RSS and Atom feeds for all accounts.

(Mine would be at:

http://kass.dreamwidth.org/data/rss
http://kass.dreamwidth.org/data/atom)

You're welcome to boycott me anyway, of course. *g*

[ethicsgradient]

I was trying to be a little silly, but failed to come across that way.....a few years back when I started using RSS heavily I tried to switch to reading LJ via RSS, and the lack of good support for feeds that require authentication prevented me from doing it.

I have, on occasion, considered moving to RSS completely and just dealing with not being able to read locked posts, but haven't bothered.

Someday soon I'll gather my thoughts on permission based blogging (I'm anti, for reasons I have a hard time explaining, so far) and post them somewhere...

[kassrachel]

Sorry, didn't mean to jump on you. I'm having kind of a Day.

Yeah, the permissions thing would be a problem, wouldn't it? I hadn't thought about that.

I might actually make the argument that livejournal/dreamwidth/etc are designed for something that isn't exactly "blogging," per se. They're much more interactive than even the most comment-heavy blogs are, there's more community focus (many of the posts I read are in communities, not individual journals, which changes the dynamic) and there are layers and levels of access (flock/filter/etc) which make the experience of posting here entirely unlike the experience of blogging as I know it. Especially as I increasingly use filters to talk about personal RL stuff, I think of my journal as something like a series of interconnected password-protected chatrooms which happen to be asynchronous. This isn't a blog, to me, at all. *g*

[samtheeagle]

Yep, I'm making that non-fannish jump, because just enough people I know are doing it as to hit my tipping-point, or at least my first tipping-point. I'm crossposting because lots of folks are staying on LJ. I do not know what this is gonna mean, and I'm pathetic enough at basic Computer Life Stuff that I don't pretend to understand half of this thread... but hey.