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Sep 10, 2008 03:13

Theoretically speaking, if your father was never there, would you hate him for it? Even if he had no choice? Even if you're better off for it?

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whitenightking September 10 2008, 02:55:11 UTC
A father is a man who raises a child, not one who was involved in it's creation.

But if the man was forced to stay away, then I would say that hate would be a little strong. Might be necessary to keep an open mind and hear what they have to say then make the call.

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[Screened | Difficult to Hack] past_chosen September 10 2008, 02:59:22 UTC
And what if the child was taken away against the father's will, to protect her and her "special bloodline"?

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Re: [Screened | Difficult to Hack] whitenightking September 10 2008, 03:02:23 UTC
I'd say that is a lonely father.

But hate would not be what should happen, if the father sacrificed his chance to be with his family for their own safety a child should not hate their father. Even if the relationship can not be like it should be, (though it is always possible to have happen), the father's loss should be acknowledged as well. And reconciliation should happen.

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[Screened | Difficult to Hack] past_chosen September 10 2008, 03:10:39 UTC
I hope that's how it'll happen, if I ever get out of this place.

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thieveryofstars September 10 2008, 02:57:27 UTC
[shrugs]

Never knew mine, so I couldn't care either way. It seems pointless to expend hate on someone you never knew.

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past_chosen September 10 2008, 03:02:59 UTC
I suppose it's pointless, sure. But people do a lot of pointless things.

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thieveryofstars September 10 2008, 03:04:03 UTC
That's for sure.

...

You're not much like the last 'you' that was here.

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past_chosen September 10 2008, 03:08:13 UTC
Yep.

...

What do you mean, the 'last' me? You mean that whole "alternates" business? I've been here before?

Well~ I suppose one of me just isn't enough to go 'round!

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notarrowette September 10 2008, 04:04:48 UTC
I would guess it depends on if I knew he had no choice. Or, you know--*what* I knew about him. On one hand--maybe. But on the other... well. Could be the opposite--people can build up idealized versions of people they want in their lives.

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past_chosen September 10 2008, 12:36:43 UTC
Hello! ♥

I have no idea what the Church'd say to control her, so who knows~? Maybe she'd come up with some idealised picture, or she could be pushed in another direction.

It's no big deal, anyway. Apparently I just don't get a say in it.

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notarrowette September 10 2008, 16:44:10 UTC
Hi! Sorry--I'm Cissie.

Huh. I... don't really know what's going on, but if you're the dad in question (which is the impression I'm getting), then you do get a say in it. Maybe not right now, considering where we are, but I have to believe eventually we'll get home and then? You can try to fix it. Doesn't mean it will be easy, but...

I don't know. I might not be the best person to talk about this; I have more than a few Daddy Issues of my own.

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past_chosen September 10 2008, 19:08:47 UTC
Hello, then, Cissie! ♥ I'm Zelos~ and let me tell you, it's pretty weird having to introduce myself when back home everyone knows who I am!

As for the Church, it kinda rules the world or something? Kinda hard to protest their decisions, you know~?

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And yeah, you could say I'm the dad in question here. It's my little girl, Lif ♥ She's the Chosen and a major target for the Desians. They find her, she's dead, you know? And she's two.

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flipping_bird September 10 2008, 12:33:28 UTC
... yes.

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past_chosen September 10 2008, 12:38:18 UTC
So would I.

But don't you think that in some circumstances, maybe the father has reason?

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flipping_bird September 10 2008, 12:42:13 UTC
What's reason got to do with emotion?

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past_chosen September 10 2008, 12:43:34 UTC
Hate might just be too strong. Just because you don't see him, doesn't mean he doesn't care.

Not like my father. He definitely didn't care.

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dauntlessxfight September 11 2008, 03:32:18 UTC
I guess some people would, and others wouldn't. There's a lot that would go into the child's feelings, from what other people say about their father, to if they know the reason he's not around, to the child's personality. But...it's possible to both hate and love your parents at the same time. Does that make sense?

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past_chosen September 12 2008, 19:04:06 UTC
Oh, absolutely makes sense! ♥ Yeah, I getcha~

But who knows what the Church'll say to the poor girl~? They're real good at the whole brainwashing thing. Got practically the whole world believing in them, great stuff!

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dauntlessxfight September 12 2008, 19:19:43 UTC
So, is the Church in your world a bad thing? I mean, the people running it. If they are, you should fight them, when you get back.

And what about her mom? Would she say good things to the daughter? Or is she brainwashed, too?

...I don't really think it could be better for her, if the situation's like that.

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past_chosen September 12 2008, 19:24:42 UTC
Pretty pointless to fight the Church of all things! There's enough fighting already, anyway, with the war and everything, so...

Besides, it's all connected.

Her mother? Never cared, not one bit! Hell, she didn't even want a kid. Right now, I don't know if that woman's alive or dead!

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