Battleground God

[pastywhiteguy]

Classes are going reasonably well still, but I gotta say one thing: Don't take a class in philosophy and expect to hear no evidence that God doesn't exist. I'm sorry if that offends you, but philosophy is about questions and "Is there a God?" is considered a pretty big question. Sorry the answer didn't quite go your way. Better luck next time...

Comments

[pastywhiteguy]

What's that, you say? Maybe your conception of God just needs a little tweaking? No worries, we can help there too:

http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/whatisgod.htm

[a_triath]

I know this is just opening a discussion that is longer than I care to get involved in, but what the hell

[pastywhiteguy]

I agree - omnipotence seems to include the ability to change the rules of logic. But that opens up all the paradoxes of omnipotence - like can god make a rock so heavy she can't lift it. If she can she then there's something she can't do (lift it) and if she can't then there's something she can't do (create it), so either way she's not omnipotent as we understand the concept. So the idea that god works within logic came in around the time of Spinoza, to say that logic was part of her nature and thus circumvent the paradox.

There...now for me that was positively brief.

[a_triath]

it was incredibly so! :)

Granted, I have my own sour opinion of logic in the debate of the existence of God, but that is a position that logically opens me to a huge charge of hypocrisy, so I must bite my tongue and accept the presence of some logic in the debate, else we're reduced to effectively saying "You're wrong! No YOU'RE wrong! Nuh uh!!! I'M TELLING!!!"

[wolfskin24]

Sometimes I wonder why the religious types don't just accept the idea of a non-omnipotent god. That would pretty much end a lot of their problems right there. Then again, they've never been known for being exceptionally bright.

[pastywhiteguy]

Yeah, you never trap a buddhist with the problem of evil.