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sov0k June 22 2017, 16:07:05 UTC
There is no such thing as free will.

http://sov0k.dreamwidth.org/61467.html

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peacetraveler22 June 22 2017, 16:21:20 UTC
I do not have time to watch these videos - summarize his message, please. :)

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sov0k June 22 2017, 17:33:48 UTC
That's too bad. In short, all events and actions of individuals are predetermined by the chain of cause&effect running back to the beginning of time. Which means that a system of "justice" built around the concept of punishement (that is, revenge) is ludicrous. Which does not mean dangerous individuals should not be isolated, etc., but the entire line of reasoning about these matters based on the illlusion of "free will" is fundamentally flawed, and bound to create ever more problems than it helps to solve.

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peacetraveler22 June 22 2017, 18:11:14 UTC
I was just writing a long message to someone about the law of causality, but in the context of time travel. :) So, I understand the viewpoint you summarized. Thanks. :)

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no_xit June 22 2017, 17:43:25 UTC

As far as I know, there has been a crime called "incitement to suicide" in the Russian law for a long time. Is it a crime? Yes, I believe it is.

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peacetraveler22 June 22 2017, 17:45:21 UTC
Many people brought this Russian law to my attention, I did not know it existed. I'm not aware of any such laws in the USA...

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ottonturk_g June 22 2017, 18:54:02 UTC
I think that lawyer and judge - are criminals. They blame her because it helps them to stay at position and to lure public hateness into one direction. But no oen care - that killing yourself is only your choice. ay be guy was crazy or his parents were ascholes...
So i think judge is a bulshit and i hope her parents kil him for thius stupid prosecusion. I hope she leaves USA in one day.
She was unhappy to be in relations with weak men. If he was a men...
Even if it was her wine - she could in stress text something like kill your self and don't touch me i'm tird - but she could also kill herself with the same reason .
I suggest to send a text to judge to ask him to die..

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peacetraveler22 June 22 2017, 20:31:00 UTC
Public hateness - you sympathize with the woman? Why? Just because a man suffers from mental problems, does not make him "weak." There are many causes for this, some of them relate to chemical imbalances beyond a person's control.

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ottonturk_g June 22 2017, 20:44:44 UTC
If someone wants to kill himsel - this is his right. If you text someone to kill Obama or Klinton - would you b responsible if he does it?
and yes, he i s weak. He couldn't control himslf. And i understand that american judicial system strongly depends on the public opinion and lawyers job - but not on the real justice and natural fairness - like in European justice.
It only stupid old man or frigid woman who sits at the chair and shows his power.
I hope someone kill the judge

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kremlin_curant June 22 2017, 20:13:55 UTC
Can't figure out the weight of the girls culpability. Let's talk about Russia, Peacewalker, I mean Traveler.

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peacetraveler22 June 22 2017, 20:29:20 UTC
What about Russia? :) I have not traveled there in several years, and don't follow local news very much. Politics is not a real interest of mine. If I have something new to say about the country, I will write it. :)

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evalex June 22 2017, 22:05:19 UTC

TL;DR

murder by sms?

In each case when a boy threats ex-girlfriend to end to his life and she tells "go to hell" we should put her at trial?

I believe it will be overruled in supreme courts

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peacetraveler22 June 22 2017, 22:10:46 UTC
TL;DR...what dies this mean??

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evalex June 22 2017, 22:20:54 UTC
too long didn't read 🙂

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peacetraveler22 June 22 2017, 22:27:11 UTC
Well, that is obvious based on your comment. :)) It was not simply a SMS. It was thousands of them, and she was on the phone with him in the act, when he took his last breath. By the way, do you romance your wife, girlfriend or other women with such poetic use of language as TL;DR? :)) Hawt...:)))

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