you could sell your baseball cards just to pay your rent

[pemberleya]

there was a piece in the post's outlook section yesterday that i won't link to b/c the post demands that you register (it's easy and worth it) about how boys suck at school and turn into 25-year-old losers who work stupid jobs and spend all their money on video games and beer

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[redlightpress]

When I read that piece yesterday, your last point was exactly what I thought of. Because I've seen studies showing that more women are going to college, so it seems very possible that the men are going at the same rates but are now outnumbered by women who may not have gone to college 50 years ago.

[pemberleya]

so, then, do you think there's a problem? in, like, 15 yrs, if the girls are more educated than the boys, will we be taking over the big jobs we still don't have now? or will the boys still be in charge?

will we all be in bridget joneslike situations where all the men are still complete underachieving schlubs like they are now, and we'll be lonely at the top, unwilling to settle for a couch potato and adopting guatemalan children?

[disembodiment]

I am also pretty skeptical of these articles. I did not read the one you mention, but I've read others like it. I don't think it is a "problem" at all and it bothers me that it's caused such an outcry when not that long ago we were struggling to even allow women into college, and we are still obviously struggling with workplace discrimination and the pay gap, especially in the top levels. I think this is another manifestation of the backlash against feminism.

[pemberleya]

pesky backlash against feminism. biting me in the ass. but i do think there's something wrong with our industrial education system if we have to medicate our children to get them to sit through it.

[jessncc1701d]

have not read piece, but get to play lawyer on friday and found evidence that will make that job so much easier, will be like a law and order moment when i get to bring it up, very cool indeed. ashlie is going to make a little song and dance up for when we win.

[pythonmont]

first, some points as i'm reading this

[pemberleya]

interesting. for what it's worth, both floundering and foundering are correct.

[xljisretardedx]

First, I totally agree with his assertion that students should be given multiple ways to learn material - especially more opportunity with hands-on learning. However, I don’t think there’s a necessary gender component to this. It’s just smart teaching, for boys and girls.

1) All of his evidence is anecdotal, which means he has no evidence that there is a real rising trend of men pissing their lives away

[pemberleya]

i agree about the paternity leave. i think all the evidence of this sort of thing is anecdotal at this point, but that doesn't mean it's not true. there are more girls than guys in my school, and i'm seeing success all around. but then i'm also seeing lots of the guys the writer's talking about schlepping away their young adulthood.

that's why i brought it up. i'm polling to see if my internet friends are seeing a pattern. i'm not convinced that i do.

[xljisretardedx]

Officially, I do not see the pattern. I did a survey of my email address book of everyone at least on year out of college and no older than 32. I classified them into three groups: A) in grad school, B) in a job they actively pursued, and C) in a job they took just because it will pay the bills (ostensibly, the schleppers, though not necessarily).

Boys: A) 3 B) 8 C) 3
Girls: A) 5 B) 8 C) 5

I excluded my friends from Emerson as that would have skewed the results, but I included my non-Emerson, Boston friends.