Comments | pentagramwearer: Hmmm

pentagramwearer

Hmmm

Dec 14, 2005 19:42

Louise Park of the PF has emailed me to say that Sandy's license has actually been renewed, that gay marriage is still illegal and that it is (only) for that reason that she cannot allow her to marry the couple.

My response to them:

Hi Louise ( Read more... )

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casparian December 14 2005, 21:20:38 UTC

I'm fairly certain that's all bollocks - whoever can perform a wedding registration at present can perform a civil partnership after the 20th (as it is in Scotland), so I'm almost positive that the Pagan celebrants will be able to perform a same sex pagan handfasting/civil partnership ceremony.

Never mind it being bad publicity, I'd have thought it'd be absolutely fantastic!

b_silver December 14 2005, 22:29:05 UTC

Never mind it being bad publicity, I'd have thought it'd be absolutely fantastic!
Sadly not how the PF do things it seems. They claim to represent the Pagan Community in all aspects including the media but they seem to be shit scared of any publicity.

"Argh!! The Muggles are looking at us!! RUN!!!"
An official PF press release. (OK, maybe not)

In the emails I have received from Louise Parks she isn't keen to push things forward at all for fear of upsetting the Executive. However Lynne Rodgers (the top banana for marriages and a nice lady) seems quite happy to discuss the prospect of a one-off license etc but the person(s) she leans on for information is....Louise Parks and the PF....

Who promptly freak out that someone is rocking the boat.

And it all goes round and round and round.

I personally can't see why a celebrant who is registered with the PF can't perform a civil partnership ceremony/handfasting. The only problem I can see if the PF peeing themselves with fear over the press. Who won't find out unless people want them to ( ... )

celebrants casparian December 16 2005, 15:44:05 UTC

Well, I must say it would be nice if certain people would discuss these things with me instead of just ranting publicly that I'm the big bad wolf ( ... )

Re: celebrants pentagramwearer December 17 2005, 13:47:46 UTC

Hi Louise, I could have responded to this post last night but I have been more than a little shocked and annoyed at the fact that yourself and John have suddenly decided to hijack my LJ and use it as a vehicle to attack any voices that dissent from pandering to the PF's every whim ( ... )

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henwyn December 15 2005, 11:23:25 UTC

Did you see the message John Mac posted to the Wyrdshop list? It was written by Louise and explained things very clearly.

luckylove December 16 2005, 01:58:07 UTC

That's really unfair. I'm glad they've renewed her license but . . .
*reads the comments*
She can perform a non-legally binding 'marriage/handfasting' ceremony. But couldn't she do that anyway?
This is all too confusing and unfair. Maybe she could apply to be able to perform civil ceremonies as well as religious ones. Or maybe not. I know very little about the legal aspects of weddings.
I'm just glad that they've renewed her license.

civil partnership or legal marriage luckylove December 16 2005, 15:58:02 UTC

She can perform a non-legally binding 'marriage/handfasting' ceremony. But couldn't she do that anyway?
This is all too confusing and unfair. Maybe she could apply to be able to perform civil ceremonies as well as religious ones. Or maybe not. I know very little about the legal aspects of weddings.
I'm just glad that they've renewed her license.
Yes, she could have done this, and we'd encourage her to do this. What she couldn't do, and what everyone said we were stopping her from doing was performing a legal gay wedding. These are, and always have been, illegal in Scotland (though I hope this may change in years to come ( ... )

Re: civil partnership or legal marriage luckylove December 20 2005, 23:15:33 UTC

someone's had been withdrawn is and remains a complete lie fed by someone who is a dishonourable, malicious liar who seeks only to damage any good work that is done by the PF in Scotland.

You are implying that Sandy is "a dishonourable, malicious liar" as she was the person who told me that and she got the information from whoever is in charge. Does this mean that the person who is at the top of the PF is "a dishonourable, malicious liar?"

I hope all of you will read my update on the marriage/civil partnership law that is currently floating about in dozens of places on the web.I don't know where any of these sites are and to be honest after the way Sandy has been been treated by most of you I really do not want to join the PF. Some of the things other people have told me re-enforce this decision. Can't remember the names of the people who have said these things but even if I could I wouldn't tell you. I don't tell tales or spread malicious rumours. Not that I think that you were talking about me in any of your other replies ( ... )