Their school dances won't be any different. All the guys on one side, all the girls on the other, but with none of the discomfort!
I'm not quite sure HOW to take this. While I agree gays should be allowed to live withOUT being harrassed (or more importantly without harrassing ME), I have to ask the same question as the politician. Is there gay math? Next thing you know there'll be this huge bubble city filled with all the gay people who will be free to frolic hither and yonder in their favorite boas, pumps, chaps, and Berkenstocks without fear of persecution, never having to shave another armpit again.
How long before gays outside the gay bubbletown are EXILED there? With a recent increase in AIDS among gay and bisexual men, I guess over-population wouldn't be a problem in Gay Bubbletown. It would be BubbleGate!
Hmmmm. Ok, I'm donating money to that Institue. lol
I think we may have finally hit on something on which we disagree. This is okay with me. I mean, it certainly won't do anything to help increase acceptance of gay & lesbian students, but is it really these kids' responsibility to "stick it out" in regular schools until the rest of the population wises up (just see above comment about feather boas, chaps, and unshaved armpits)?
It is most often during high school that gay people seem to grapple with their sexuality (as we all do, but theirs has an added complication). Why not give them a judgment-, ridicule- and abuse-free environment in which to do so? I say go for it.
My only real concern about this is that kids who attend this high school may be branded as freaks anyway and encounter ridicule on an even grander scale in the outside world. What about competitive sports? Will the rest of the schools in their conference have it out for them, etc.?
No, we don't really disagree, for example that last paragraphs of yours joins some things I'm thinking. I just believe in mixes and not learning and growing sheltered in a little bubble. Not all gays get bashed (especially since this is NYC, not Butthole, Alabama), and people have lots to learn from one another... I think it's very sad.
In defense of Butthole, ALbmusedJuly 29 2003, 12:37:52 UTC
Certainly not all gays get bashed, but just because a gay teen lives in NYC doesn't mean he/she's not going to get bashed. There's gay bashing in SF. In fact, some of the most homophobic people I've ever met live here (which astonishes the hell out of me but whatever). And perhaps gay kids from all over the U.S. (like from Wyoming, where Matthew Shepard was killed) will be able to go to school there. And feel safe.
I think we should remember that it's easy to be pro-integration when you're NOT the kid that's going to get the shit beat out of him after school every damned day, or be spit on, or shunned, or ridiculed. It's hard enough to be different in high school. But to be different in that way I think is too much to ask of kids that age.
Re: In defense of Butthole, ALperpetualmotionJuly 29 2003, 12:41:52 UTC
To me it's just a step back, it's stopping trying and going for the easy way that won't change things. To me there's still a fight that needs to be thought and this doesn't seem to go into the right direction. It's like resegregating schools in the 70-80... Yes it's probably a great thing for them there, but is it an answer... Mostly just a bandaid.
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I'm not quite sure HOW to take this. While I agree gays should be allowed to live withOUT being harrassed (or more importantly without harrassing ME), I have to ask the same question as the politician. Is there gay math? Next thing you know there'll be this huge bubble city filled with all the gay people who will be free to frolic hither and yonder in their favorite boas, pumps, chaps, and Berkenstocks without fear of persecution, never having to shave another armpit again.
How long before gays outside the gay bubbletown are EXILED there? With a recent increase in AIDS among gay and bisexual men, I guess over-population wouldn't be a problem in Gay Bubbletown. It would be BubbleGate!
Hmmmm. Ok, I'm donating money to that Institue. lol
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It is most often during high school that gay people seem to grapple with their sexuality (as we all do, but theirs has an added complication). Why not give them a judgment-, ridicule- and abuse-free environment in which to do so? I say go for it.
My only real concern about this is that kids who attend this high school may be branded as freaks anyway and encounter ridicule on an even grander scale in the outside world. What about competitive sports? Will the rest of the schools in their conference have it out for them, etc.?
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I think we should remember that it's easy to be pro-integration when you're NOT the kid that's going to get the shit beat out of him after school every damned day, or be spit on, or shunned, or ridiculed. It's hard enough to be different in high school. But to be different in that way I think is too much to ask of kids that age.
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And think about it, the drama club would SO rock!
No worries about bad fashions or a poorly cleaned school.
I say Hands On is the way to go.
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