Comments | phallelujah: "Ripped" at the bar with musicology grads

phallelujah

"Ripped" at the bar with musicology grads

Jan 20, 2007 15:19

Last night I organized a bar-outing with four of my favourite musicology grads. Of course, the chatter included recent research we were doing, our classes, different ways of thinking/writing about music and such. It was awesome for all but the last hour or two ( Read more... )

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orphantree January 20 2007, 21:38:55 UTC

20% is a good tip, so if a drink is $4.75, a dollar tip should be fine... i'm kind of puzzled that she would expect more than $2. were you tipping for everyone's drinks?

phallelujah January 21 2007, 00:02:35 UTC

Yeah I usually tip $1 but I felt really weird that night. I was worried about tipping to begin with because I wasn't sure how much the drinks would cost until she arrived with them and then I didn't have enough time to work out 15% in my head (I usually just double the tax when I go to a restaurant). So when she kept her hand held out I started to panic :\

I always feel awkward with tipping regardless. I like your 20% rule. It's a lot easier to work with.

Maybe she was waiting for other people to tip too. I'm still confused about it.

malys January 20 2007, 22:11:30 UTC

HAD to tip the waitress? Like, she held her hand out, waiting for you to tip her? What the hell is that?

Anyway, these guys sound bitter and disillusioned. I'd avoid them, so as not to absorb their ridiculous negativity.

phallelujah January 21 2007, 00:07:19 UTC

Yeah. Here everyone gets tipped. I don't go to bars in Vancouver so I don't know how it works back home.

And as for the bitter guys, I'm actually pretty shocked by everything they said (and moreover, how they said it). They have this movie night every week that I've been meaning to go to but now I feel really uncomfortable about it.

The one thing I don't need when I'm pushing myself to get through demanding amounts of work everyday is a lack of inspiration. Another reason why it's so shocking for me is because I've been riding this high of excitement during the last couple weeks. I definitely don't need that taken away from me.

In sum, agreed.

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phallelujah January 21 2007, 00:08:55 UTC

Yeah I was a little ticked by that too.

And you guys don't tip at all? What about for delivery guys? Restaurant waiters? Taxi drivers?

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phallelujah January 21 2007, 00:45:48 UTC

Nice! Must suck to work in the service industry though.

By the way, I met a girl from Sydney out here. She completely lost her Australian accent though - said she wasn't "very fond of it anyway...how unpatriotic of me, I know." :p

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lilitaly January 21 2007, 05:20:39 UTC

I'm not going to just sit there and swallow all of their ideas without questioning them to the best of my ability.You've said it all right here. No need to hang around these people ( ... )

phallelujah January 21 2007, 17:01:04 UTC

I remember bringing up a similar point during the high school reunion conversation. I basically chose studying music because I couldn't get enough of it and because I felt skilled at it. When I started my first year with calculus, chemistry, and Canadian history I was getting a range of C's and I hated it. Despite the pressure of being "practical," I feel like I'm actually more useful doing something where I'm motivated ( ... )

waster60268 January 21 2007, 17:07:32 UTC

if he really thinks the degree is bullshit, why hasn't he completely dropped it by now? [i found out pretty qickly that art school was bullshit. i dropped that after a year..]

sounds like someone who thrives on having stuff to complain about. if your only thesis is an antithesis, removing yourself from the thing you're against leaves you with no thesis or purpose or point whatsoever. [how depressing.]

keep doing what you do, eric; don't let these jaded academics kill it for you.*

phallelujah January 21 2007, 22:32:00 UTC

I remember my dad telling me about some principle in economics where no matter how much you have already put into something, if it becomes a doomed venture you abandon it. Of course, that's ridiculously hard to do if you've invested a whole bunch of time into something.

That's what makes these sorts of arguments really emotional. People pour their entire lives into an academic field or area of study and when the meaning of what they do becomes challenged, they face a crisis. It's easy to decide that a field is meaningless or uninteresting if you've just started off in it (I remember thinking something along those lines with a few during my early undergrad). But in his case, he's spent a lot of time and money on this degree and I guess he's facing a lot of tough choices. But as lilitaly said above, that doesn't mean that he has to take his insecurities out on his peers ( ... )