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firerainchild June 17 2009, 20:08:46 UTC
Don't feel too bad... I say if you do something for good, then good went out into the world and it will come back to you. You didn't do something to hurt him, yes, he lied to you. But you opened your heart and wallet in good faith. Only good can come from that right?

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phikus June 20 2009, 18:06:03 UTC
Yeah, thanks for the positive words.

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firerainchild June 21 2009, 05:44:28 UTC
: ) Have to tell myself the same thing when I get hurt helping others.

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enemabagjones June 18 2009, 05:10:32 UTC
Don't blame yourself. SLC's street tax is getting similarly ludicrous...more and more stories every day about how "Oh, I'm not homeless, I just ran out of gas" et cetera.

My sympathy always wears out about then. Why is someone's NOT being homeless supposed to provoke me to give them money?

I could go on about this. I know begging is as old as society itself, and I'm not going to start that debate. I have my own ideas about what really helps people, and about self-preservation, and I face it every day, so that's just kind of where I'm at now.

In any case, you conducted an experiment of your own about the goodness of people's hearts. And you definitely got a good story, as you say.

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phikus June 20 2009, 18:09:36 UTC
Yeah, everyone has bad luck and why does it fall on a stranger to pull them out? If I truly want to contribute to the well-being of society does it behoove me to support the panhandling on the streets? I think not, but there is that immediate moral fiber that gets tugged when someone portrayed neediness asks for help.

I'm reading about Plato and his description of the human condition, and it is hard to make all of your decisions based on reasoning instead of emotions and primal desires. Such is life.

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Go Back with a vengeance caspur June 18 2009, 07:22:25 UTC
OK Make a sign that says, This Clown asked to Borrow $20 and would pay it back, He didn't. And stand next to him while he performs. Or some such

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Re: Go Back with a vengeance phikus June 20 2009, 18:10:33 UTC
THAT would make an even better story! Plus I wouldn't need to use the word clown figuratively. Hehe.

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zimbra1006 June 18 2009, 15:28:20 UTC
don't feel too bad, we've all been flim-flammed. And you were trying to help somebody, so that's good karma, as firerainchild says.

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phikus June 20 2009, 18:12:30 UTC
Yay for karma! Is it selfish to do good things with the thought that good things will come back to you? I supposed the result would be the same either way, but which mode has a deeper satisfaction? Is deep satisfaction a truly benevolent objective? Ah, philosophy.

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More good things... caspur June 20 2009, 23:23:26 UTC
make the sign and warn others of the flim flammery. I really like the sign idea if you hadn't noticed.

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