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Oct 19, 2005 22:16

Got my bike! It is fantastic. A couple of things didn't run as smoothly as I'd hoped, but overall I'm really happy with it! Yay ( Read more... )

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metal_hecate October 20 2005, 10:33:13 UTC
"However, a code of morals has to be based on a set of beliefs, otherwise they wouldn't stand up"
- Lies! It is perfectly possible to have morals without beliefs - we obviouslz haven't spent enough time chatting over a bottle of wine...

"Anyone who is certain that God does or does not exist is a fool in my view"
- In that case, I admit to being a fool... :)

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samantha_dega October 20 2005, 12:39:59 UTC
Dictionary.com defines a belief as

"Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons."

and morals as

"Rules or habits of conduct, especially of sexual conduct, with reference to standards of right and wrong: a person of loose morals; a decline in the public morals"

So how can one have any morals, if one cannot even accept anything as true?

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metal_hecate October 20 2005, 17:15:20 UTC
Dictionary.com is not *actually* the definitive source of information, as it totally ignores the original context, which I believe is formative in this case

However, as you have a dragon as your icon, I shall forgive this.

Given the context of the original, 'beliefs' clearly refers to the more formal, group-accepted tenet, rather than the all-encompassing synonym for 'thought' as stated in your source. For example, I suspect morals can not often be based on a set of beliefs about the likelihood of snow in Vienna this week, or the likelihood of my desk secretly being a tortoise, even if these beliefs *were* "accepted by a group of persons". Rather, the type of beliefs on which one could base a moral code would be of the formulated theological, ideological etc nature of thoughts, i.e. beliefs.

especially a accepted by a group of persons."

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zoologydragon October 20 2005, 20:55:04 UTC
*Sits back and watches* - this looks like it's going to be fun. =)

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