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Mar 17, 2007 22:25

Henry Darger much?

I read this article in the Star-Ledger.

I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I have a bias towards local papers. I think people who live in New Jersey but who read the New York Times instead of the New Jersey paper are super-lame. I also think it's super-lame that Swarthmore distributes the New York Times instead of ( Read more... )

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justice_fishy March 18 2007, 04:12:33 UTC
Well, it's mostly because the Times is an honestly objectively better newspaper. The writing is several orders of magnitude better than the Inquirer, it has its own international bureau, and I think we have a lot more alum working there. As for the Gazette, I mean, you've got better writing, fact checking, and generally lack of suck that the Phoenix does.

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jackferd March 18 2007, 04:14:47 UTC
I'm going to come out here as a New York Times and Washington Post reader over the Philadelphia Inquirer. The latter makes a bit more sense than the former, obviously, me being from the DC Metro area originally and all (and our local newspaper being a hack-job joke). The Times I read mostly because its coverage of Science and International beats, from what (little) comparsion I've done, trumps that of the Inquirer. I guess it's a sad fact that I care so little about Philadelphia, even though I'm a ten-minute train-ride away. From what I've seen so far at Swat, it doesn't seem that the city is much integral to the "Swarthmore experience," whatever the hell that is. Though I could be (and probably am) wrong... "the plural of anecdote is not data," no, Lauren?

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jackferd March 18 2007, 04:16:50 UTC
As a side-note, I'm a little spooked out by all this "Gazette 2.0" talk. I'm kind-of afraid it's really a code-word for some sort of cybernetic assault development that Myles has been working on, maybe to crash and explode the Phoenix's (very feeble, barely alive at last count) web servers.

Then you'd have a monopoly, wouldn't you? I see your game...

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philthecow March 18 2007, 04:33:48 UTC
OK, I understand that the Inquirer is worse than the NYT in a lot of ways, particularly in its coverage of international news, and I do agree that the NYT has better writing, I just really believe in local newspapers.

I want to know what the news from Philly is--I find it disturbing that we can live so close to Philadelphia yet be so cut off from it. Not to mention how cut off we are from Swarthmore borough itself.

I guess I'd be happy if both the NYT and the Inquirer were distributed on campus... one for the international news and science and arts and what have you, one because local newspapers are a GOOD THING no matter how crappy they are and the habit of reading them should be ENCOURAGED.

(Gazette 2.0 is actually a code-word for the anthrax we plan to release into your office through vents during a staff meeting... I'll let you know which one it is ahead of time, but shh! ;) )

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_swallow March 18 2007, 05:22:41 UTC
Yeah, you guys should all be reading THE SWARTHMOREAN. My landlord subscribes. It is absurd & lovely in all the ways tiny local newspapers are.

But, seriously-- as a Philadelphian who grew up reading the Inquirer, I mourn its past glory and current suckitude, like a lot of people. I still read it almost every day, though, because I agree with you.

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pimmers March 18 2007, 06:05:41 UTC
But Gazette 2.0 is on the way, and when it lands, you're all going to be scrambling to get over here...)

It'll be very OH SNAP!! WHAT NOT?! sort of time.

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pimmers March 18 2007, 06:05:56 UTC
Er, *WHAT NOW?!, I mean.

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ccommack March 18 2007, 07:53:15 UTC
It really depends on the quality of the reporting and the position of the editorial board. While the Star-Ledger and the Asbury Park Press are decent papers, I wouldn't dream of paying money to read the Courier Post. Likewise, on this side of the Delaware, the Delaware County Daily Times isn't worth the paper it's printed on, when it's having a bad day, although the good days are more than tolerable.

I tend to switch off newspapers depending on how widely scoped I want my news; I subscribe to The Economist, I read The New York Times regularly online for national news, I check the Philadelphia Inquirer or the New York Daily News for their respective metro areas' local news, and I occasionally pick up The Swarthmorean when I'm at the Co-op and a headline catches my eye. All of them have their strengths, but my sense of the world I live in would skew badly were I to rely on a single one of these publications.

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nosuchweather March 18 2007, 21:32:23 UTC
big hearts for the ledger!

granted, i'm biased, because my mom works there. did you know that the ledger used to be a really trashy paper? to the point that when my mom was little, it wasn't allowed in her house. then they had an editor who made it "respectabe" and then...

well, i could go on and on but i doubt it's interesting

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