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Dec 10, 2008 00:56

I really, really hate pretentious people. It's simply because I don't see the point of creating a new identity for yourself in a context of very accommodating and understanding people. That's why the only seemingly-rational excuse of pretentious people that "I am just so scared to be ostracized by the world" is already out of that very context, ( Read more... )

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kat_817 December 9 2008, 17:52:00 UTC
I completely understand the need for a friendship-over stance when the very act of trying to save a friendship with honesty is as difficult as talking to a wall. Well, actually, buti nga yung wall hindi nag-iinterrupt. Or nagpapaka-defensive. Or nagththreaten to kill me.

If I have one regret (and sorry if umaabogado na naman), it's that I managed to give him the time of day to try to explain things, when I wasn't even able to accord the same thing to one of my very best friends, who happened to be in a parallel situation. At least I know she would have listened to me without trying to rebut every single thing I'd say.

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phonologist December 11 2008, 01:22:23 UTC
Question: if someone asks why he doesn't listen, and goes as far as to say that he does, and even defends himself, isn't this a sign that he really doesn't listen at all?

In fernez, I have to agree with you. The level of harm is really different. But well, lamang ako sayo. I was able to explain things with someone who used to be one of my best friends. Pero ikaw, naunahan pa kita. Haha.

Why do confrontations love me. Meh.

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bjeg2008 anonymous December 9 2008, 18:43:43 UTC
Pretensions to superiority are devastatingly destructive. The attitude consumes you.

What's so kadirdir about the truth that you need to pretend pa?

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Re: bjeg2008 phonologist December 11 2008, 01:27:03 UTC
I super love your comment, especially "The attitude consumes you". I dunno, maybe there are some inhibitions that are way beyond the understanding of normal individuals? But what, people are supposed to be friends so they are supposed to understand right?? Ay ewan. Haaaay.

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thefisieuxfiles December 10 2008, 00:41:55 UTC
OMG! I'm out of the loop. Sino ito?! haha.

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phonologist December 11 2008, 01:33:22 UTC
It's for me to know and for you to find out. :p

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ballerynna December 10 2008, 07:27:17 UTC
Shet pa-chismis naman sa Homecoming, parang juicy ito ha

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phonologist December 11 2008, 01:43:32 UTC
Wag na, party dapat ang homecoming niyong mga alumni. Hehe. Kebs muna dapat sa mabibigat na intriga hahaha

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polsci_05 December 11 2008, 02:12:56 UTC
You use your friends in many ways, from simple pay-you-laters and even up to the point of sharing with him a part of your true self. That means that there are many ways of defining friendship, and there are many thresholds and reasonable expectations (Atienza, 2008) that should be met in order to justify any circumstance that happens within the bounds of that "friendship".

-- Do you claim friendship on the rational assumption of 'give and take' or do you believe on the normative underpinning of it, ie 'friendship is about trust without waiting for return'? It bothers me how it is easy for people to give up friendship when in the grand scheme of things, these people have helped you grow up and become a better person. I have lived outside the country too long and the lesson is just to value people based on how they have made you happy.

cheers,

jojo

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phonologist December 11 2008, 18:41:27 UTC
Hello, Jojo!

I'm coming from the 'give-and'take' assumption, which is why I value certain thresholds and reasonable expectations among friends. It's not that I think that friends should wait for something in return; it's just that for me, there are no purely black and white areas with regard to how expectations and treatments should be accorded by anyone to his friends. I have to agree that it's really sad to give up friendships especially those which really played integral parts in our lives, but I don't think it's even easy. People take it as a last resort, when all probable chances have already run out and when trying to hold on to it already starts to become very painful. Sometimes, moving on and learning something from the past can serve as the best way to prevent even more conflict and to help ourselves become better.

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polsci_05 December 11 2008, 19:38:32 UTC
I hope this is not just about debate because if it is, really, its not worth doing. When you leave the university, you will see how little debate has contributed to your profession. In fact, debate is only enjoyable when you experience those "critical moments" which change your life (path dependency theory haha), and in those circumstances, you typically have a friend beside you sharing that championship or semifinals round. I hate rationalists so I have to say, go for a new framework of thinking. hehe.

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phonologist December 13 2008, 19:59:34 UTC
Thanks for the reminder, Jojo. I have to admit that this concerns a debater, but this is not about debate issues. I'm pretty sure I can delineate debate issues from personal issues and vice versa :)

Too bad you're abroad and didn't make it to the homecoming! Hoping to see you when you come back here in Manila!

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