hmmm... i have a question to ask you... and i feel that is right for me to ask because obviously i dont know who I'm dealing with because of the whole name changing thing... but who really are you... cause you're confusing me as FUCK
cheesy response? ..perhaps..jnglboogiJune 1 2006, 17:15:51 UTC
What if our bodies are not a result of our genes but of our state of mind?
our bodies are a direct result of both. i know that when i'm depressed i don't eat = a skinnier me. i also know that my body is predisposed to gain weight in certain areas (butt, thighs) so i know to work those areas a little harder. it definitely goes both ways.
Why the fuck does my body even matter so much to me?because you live in a society that says if you're not thin and beautiful you are nothing. you'd be hard-pressed to find ANYONE (in the US) who TRULY does not care about their appearance. i care about mine, but i wouldn't say that i'm insanely vain. i take pride in the way i look and honestly do it for me. (i know that sounds like a load of crap, but i'm serious) if was doing it for people around me i would've followed the herd, dyed my hair blonde and gotten a boob job YEARS ago...what i'm trying to say is that you just have to keep it all in perspective. caring about your appearance doesn't always equal narcissism
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Re: cheesy response? ..perhaps..plasticprophetJune 2 2006, 03:02:22 UTC
Thank you for the kind words. I'm insanely appreciative that this random person that is you (who I must admit I hardly know) continues to chime into my life. How weird and marvelous.
I think the majority of the problems I have with my situation boil down to the fact that I have been completely taken in by this culture of what is acceptable, which you have described really very well as saying that if I am not thin and beautiful, I am nothing. I am of it and I am from it and I am unescapably a part of it. But this isn't really the problem, since I don't have to deal on a personal level with advertising and movies and television and magazines and all of the consumables in which our culture manifests itself. Instead, I have to deal on a daily basis with other idiots just like me who have also been infected by it. And while a person in life and a person on a television may both have perfect bodies, the person in life is the only who has the power to make me aware that I am inferior because I do not.
Come off it Shiva; you're not fooling me.paradox0June 1 2006, 20:33:15 UTC
Actually, it seems from your commentary that he rather despises the mind and body that It has donned, but that's all part of the costume. I enjoy the resulting drama from the vantage of this costume because he's not subject to the constituent displeasure of yours. I'll know it from the other side of the conversation when I die to this and become you, but it won't change a thing because you'll already be me and my great uncle
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Re: Come off it Shiva; you're not fooling me.plasticprophetJune 2 2006, 03:13:08 UTC
That's it, and that's it entirely, and that's why I have such an infuriating time trying to be. Because this IS the costume, and all of it. Not just the body, but the clothes the body wears, the food the body eats, the words the body says, the thoughts the body thinks, everything, it's all part of the ruse. Indeed, even my flying into fits of rage is part of the character. If I awaken to it, it is because my part was to awaken to it. If I remain in the illusion, it is because I was always going to do so.
Fatalism times a million.
So my default states are raging anger or silence. In my rage, I'm playing the part. In my silence, I was not written into the scene. And whatever direction I chose to go, I can never change, because at the core it will always be the same stuff. And none of this makes a difference because I'm still at the mercy of my brain reminding me how inferior I am. Even if it's an illusion, it's a wonderful and inescapable one.
I'm really enjoying this thread. But the timing was strange on this end, Naite, and I mean this to be funny, not offensive... but DIRECTLY after reading this post yesterday I watched the episode of Lost introducing Katey Sagal's character, the therapist-loveinterest of Locke, and she walks out of a meeting saying of her patients, "Get over it! Freaks!" And I laughed.
On to less funny things.
I was skeptical of Watts' discussion of Hindu beliefs at first, because I thought, "What? Aren't they the crazy mofos who worship cows and strict karma and all that?" But after listening and relieving my ethnocentric judgements, I remembered the important thing: Hindu is just a word. They have churches just like we do, churches that nobody really likes to visit. It is the concepts behind the Hindu ideas, and many other religious systems, that I have now come to enjoy. I was going to say 'embrace' but that's not what I want to do. No more clinging. No more desperation. Let it go.
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our bodies are a direct result of both. i know that when i'm depressed i don't eat = a skinnier me. i also know that my body is predisposed to gain weight in certain areas (butt, thighs) so i know to work those areas a little harder. it definitely goes both ways.
Why the fuck does my body even matter so much to me?because you live in a society that says if you're not thin and beautiful you are nothing. you'd be hard-pressed to find ANYONE (in the US) who TRULY does not care about their appearance. i care about mine, but i wouldn't say that i'm insanely vain. i take pride in the way i look and honestly do it for me. (i know that sounds like a load of crap, but i'm serious) if was doing it for people around me i would've followed the herd, dyed my hair blonde and gotten a boob job YEARS ago...what i'm trying to say is that you just have to keep it all in perspective. caring about your appearance doesn't always equal narcissism ( ... )
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I think the majority of the problems I have with my situation boil down to the fact that I have been completely taken in by this culture of what is acceptable, which you have described really very well as saying that if I am not thin and beautiful, I am nothing. I am of it and I am from it and I am unescapably a part of it. But this isn't really the problem, since I don't have to deal on a personal level with advertising and movies and television and magazines and all of the consumables in which our culture manifests itself. Instead, I have to deal on a daily basis with other idiots just like me who have also been infected by it. And while a person in life and a person on a television may both have perfect bodies, the person in life is the only who has the power to make me aware that I am inferior because I do not.
I ramble and I enjoy it immensely
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Fatalism times a million.
So my default states are raging anger or silence. In my rage, I'm playing the part. In my silence, I was not written into the scene. And whatever direction I chose to go, I can never change, because at the core it will always be the same stuff. And none of this makes a difference because I'm still at the mercy of my brain reminding me how inferior I am. Even if it's an illusion, it's a wonderful and inescapable one.
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On to less funny things.
I was skeptical of Watts' discussion of Hindu beliefs at first, because I thought, "What? Aren't they the crazy mofos who worship cows and strict karma and all that?" But after listening and relieving my ethnocentric judgements, I remembered the important thing: Hindu is just a word. They have churches just like we do, churches that nobody really likes to visit. It is the concepts behind the Hindu ideas, and many other religious systems, that I have now come to enjoy. I was going to say 'embrace' but that's not what I want to do. No more clinging. No more desperation. Let it go.
On to more funny things.
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