The originals, with the whole alive, then dead, then alive, then dead.
IT IS SRS BSNS. I do give up it to the writers, I think the ability to put the Originals in cold storage is a fantastic worldbuilding-consistent escape hatch. Like Katherine, they're just too good of antagonists to be around much, and too good characters ever to get rid of in any final way, but unlike Katherine, they don't necessarily have characterization that explains why they'll fuck off and cause havoc elsewhere. But the story never has to go explaining actual raising the dead. But yeah, you probably have to EMBRACE THE CRACK to go with it.
I think Bonnie's mother might be my favourite complicated Bad Mommy too. \o/
I'm surprised you think things are getting "more awful" for Elena/Stefan. I thought things actually looked up for them this episode?
Is it better if Tyler sought him out, or does that just mean Tyler turned himself over to yet another abusive father figure who promises him freedom and approval?… it risks becoming just as debilitating if the expected way of healing is to make him relive the worst of it over and over for some indeterminate period of time
I THINK IT, YOU SAY IT.
Damon loves the edge for the thrill of it, and being able to pick a fight with fucking Klaus on his own terms is all kinds of exhilarating. That gives him a purpose that just so happens to necessitate being a giant troll.
HAHAHAHAHA FLAWLESS. Our boy. Word on him being really an excellent strategic thinker WHEN HE WANTS TO BE. Baha.
And, you know, it’s poetic justice in such a big way for him to get strapped down and have blood taken from him, especially when some of it’s used on
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I'm surprised you think things are getting "more awful" for Elena/Stefan. I thought things actually looked up for them this episode?
Stefan is just not even playing at the villain show anymore? He just stalked her to be a petty stalker. And didn't even do any good, since he managed to be all shot and useless. Now they're outside the big operatic feelings, he's just a douche, and they're getting to that space where they have to see if they can live with everything he's done. BRUTAL but I'm excited.
In contrast, Ric trusts Meredith waaaay too easily - one thing to tell her he’s a vampire hunter, but another thing entirely to tell this person he just met about the RING OF IMMORTALITY.
WHICH SHE THEN PLAYFULLY TRIES TO TAKE OFF. Ummmm.... I am interested that she was asking how he survived, though. She even asks if it was vampire blood, which is when Alaric tells her about the ring. But she never seemed to ask if Damon gave him blood.
And ELIJAH.
Now I'm wondering how much Damon had time for. Just to pull out the dagger and leave Elijah to wake up whenever he did, confident that Elijah would shake things up, or did he have time to undagger him, wait, talk to him, and then Elijah stays in the coffin, playing dead.
YES! And Ric catches it and goes with it anyway! He's getting reckless or cocky. Obviously several months in the exclusive company of teenagers and (worse) Salvatores will do that to a guy, but still.
May I just co-sign all of your Bonnie/Abby/Witches thoughts because I agree with everything.
Is it better if Tyler sought him out, or does that just mean Tyler turned himself over to yet another abusive father figure who promises him freedom and approval? If siring is really a conflict of the mind and so they have to take an approach which is participatory, or will that just make Tyler feel complicit in anything bad it does to him? It’s all well and good to say people need to face their trauma in order to shake off the grip it has on them; at the same time, it risks becoming just as debilitating if the expected way of healing is to make him relive the worst of it over and over for some indeterminate period of time, turning himself inside out just for the sake of the pain of it all? HRG WHY YOU GOTTA BE OPRAH THOUGH. There are no easy answers, even if everyone involved is working in good faith.This. I've been having some trouble connecting to Tyler lately, really for most of this season and the back-end of the last. But this reading
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I have to say, I wasn't really feeling Caroline in this episode and I'm not sure what to make of a few things there.
Also, I didn't feel the Stefan/Elena stuff much at all. I - I just don't know. It didn't ring right for me and I'm trying to figure out why but I haven't yet. Sigh.
I am SO HOPEFUL for more development with the Bennetts and their powers.
I think the show's doing something really fantastic with Tyler's curse as a cycle-of-abuse metaphor, to an extent that I can't think of having seen elsewhere. (Greatly over-expanded yapping here.) I do think the scenes with Bill Forbes would be tough to evaluate outside of that because they don't take a position, but I think that's because there's not really a "good" or "bad" to dealing with the fallout of Tyler's whole shit situation.
But yeah, Caroline herself is kind of taking a backseat in the whole situation, which I suppose makes sense with her having laid herself to rest and all, but I hope it's not that way for long.
Meredith is already becoming a favorite for me. The minute she jabbed Damon with such brutal efficiency and left him slumped on the floor, I was a little starry-eyed.
THIS. and you know he kind of was too. And for her then to have at least a reason which does make total sense, but possibly also shadier motives? TELL ME MORE, SHOW.
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The originals, with the whole alive, then dead, then alive, then dead.
IT IS SRS BSNS. I do give up it to the writers, I think the ability to put the Originals in cold storage is a fantastic worldbuilding-consistent escape hatch. Like Katherine, they're just too good of antagonists to be around much, and too good characters ever to get rid of in any final way, but unlike Katherine, they don't necessarily have characterization that explains why they'll fuck off and cause havoc elsewhere. But the story never has to go explaining actual raising the dead. But yeah, you probably have to EMBRACE THE CRACK to go with it.
AND OMG I LOVE John and Isobel. LOVE THEM.
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I'm surprised you think things are getting "more awful" for Elena/Stefan. I thought things actually looked up for them this episode?
Is it better if Tyler sought him out, or does that just mean Tyler turned himself over to yet another abusive father figure who promises him freedom and approval?… it risks becoming just as debilitating if the expected way of healing is to make him relive the worst of it over and over for some indeterminate period of time
I THINK IT, YOU SAY IT.
Damon loves the edge for the thrill of it, and being able to pick a fight with fucking Klaus on his own terms is all kinds of exhilarating. That gives him a purpose that just so happens to necessitate being a giant troll.
HAHAHAHAHA FLAWLESS. Our boy. Word on him being really an excellent strategic thinker WHEN HE WANTS TO BE. Baha.
And, you know, it’s poetic justice in such a big way for him to get strapped down and have blood taken from him, especially when some of it’s used on ( ... )
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Stefan is just not even playing at the villain show anymore? He just stalked her to be a petty stalker. And didn't even do any good, since he managed to be all shot and useless. Now they're outside the big operatic feelings, he's just a douche, and they're getting to that space where they have to see if they can live with everything he's done. BRUTAL but I'm excited.
Damon, for his part, seemed not to mind.
LOL, HE'S USUALLY DOWN FOR THAT.
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WHICH SHE THEN PLAYFULLY TRIES TO TAKE OFF. Ummmm.... I am interested that she was asking how he survived, though. She even asks if it was vampire blood, which is when Alaric tells her about the ring. But she never seemed to ask if Damon gave him blood.
And ELIJAH.
Now I'm wondering how much Damon had time for. Just to pull out the dagger and leave Elijah to wake up whenever he did, confident that Elijah would shake things up, or did he have time to undagger him, wait, talk to him, and then Elijah stays in the coffin, playing dead.
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YES! And Ric catches it and goes with it anyway! He's getting reckless or cocky. Obviously several months in the exclusive company of teenagers and (worse) Salvatores will do that to a guy, but still.
AND ELIJAH.
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Is it better if Tyler sought him out, or does that just mean Tyler turned himself over to yet another abusive father figure who promises him freedom and approval? If siring is really a conflict of the mind and so they have to take an approach which is participatory, or will that just make Tyler feel complicit in anything bad it does to him? It’s all well and good to say people need to face their trauma in order to shake off the grip it has on them; at the same time, it risks becoming just as debilitating if the expected way of healing is to make him relive the worst of it over and over for some indeterminate period of time, turning himself inside out just for the sake of the pain of it all? HRG WHY YOU GOTTA BE OPRAH THOUGH. There are no easy answers, even if everyone involved is working in good faith.This. I've been having some trouble connecting to Tyler lately, really for most of this season and the back-end of the last. But this reading ( ... )
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Also, I didn't feel the Stefan/Elena stuff much at all. I - I just don't know. It didn't ring right for me and I'm trying to figure out why but I haven't yet. Sigh.
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I think the show's doing something really fantastic with Tyler's curse as a cycle-of-abuse metaphor, to an extent that I can't think of having seen elsewhere. (Greatly over-expanded yapping here.) I do think the scenes with Bill Forbes would be tough to evaluate outside of that because they don't take a position, but I think that's because there's not really a "good" or "bad" to dealing with the fallout of Tyler's whole shit situation.
But yeah, Caroline herself is kind of taking a backseat in the whole situation, which I suppose makes sense with her having laid herself to rest and all, but I hope it's not that way for long.
Meredith is already becoming a favorite for me. The minute she jabbed Damon with such brutal efficiency and left him slumped on the floor, I was a little starry-eyed.
THIS. and you know he kind of was too. And for her then to have at least a reason which does make total sense, but possibly also shadier motives? TELL ME MORE, SHOW.
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