spn 4x8 - 4x16: Sam post

[pocochina]

SPN meta-fantastica this weekend, because I'm up to 4x16 and I have to say EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYONE. I was going to start writing some kind of thoughts after every three episodes. And then every four. And then there wasn't too much going on in a couple of episodes there, so I figured it would be fine. Then it kicked the hell into gear and I HAD TO

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[blueteainfusion]

Oh, hello, On the Head of a Pin. Are you one of the bestest episodes, y/y? Everything there just... gah

[pocochina]

SAMMEH!

(I just can't get over Sex and Violence, where he mocks Dean with information that was the most private thing his brother ever willingly shared with him.)

blergh, that episode. In Sam's defense, I don't think he's said anything unsupportive to Dean except when he had been demon-roofied. I think it is what he thinks on some level - part of what he thinks, anyway - but I don't think he would say that without serious outside influence. Because generally, he's incredibly supportive (ie in Yellow Fever, when he is basically a case study for How To Be A Safe Person 101; on the pier and the hood of the car where he gets Dean to feel safe enough to open up).

As for why he clearly thinks that way - I get why it rankles! I'm not saying it shouldn't! But I don't think it's actually about "Dean now," but about the way Sam idealized Dean before. Because Dean never could've "gotten the job done" in Head of a Pin. He's a hardass, but he's never had the chops to get to someone like Alastair. Until Sam gets his freak on, nobody does,

[percysowner]

I have to say I never understood fandom reaction to Sex and Violence. Sam walks in on Dean under the Siren spell and appeals to Dean to fight it BECAUSE at heart he believes Dean is strong enough to shake it off. At the time, Dean is threatening to kill Sam. Dean is also poking at all of Sam's issues, the demon blood, the psychic visions and so much of fandom basically goes Dean is under a spell, he would never try to kill Sam in his right mind and he's right to keep reminding Sam of how bad and wrong he is. Heck, he "reminds" Sam that Sam always sleeps with monsters even before the Siren infects him. He brings up Madison which is an incredibly low blow. One of the things he jumps on Sam for is getting a call from Ruby and Sam quite rightfully says that Dean doesn't have the right to screen Sam's calls and track and censor his relationships.

Dean gets a pass for being cruel to Sam in S&V. Sam gets accused of "being mean to Dean". I always felt that what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If Dean gets a pass, then Sam

[pocochina]

Dean gets a pass for being cruel to Sam in S&V. Sam gets accused of "being mean to Dean"

.....WOW. I mean, I liked them both about the same at this point, I think, so maybe it was easy for me to say "they were both roofied" and go with Sam's decision to call it a mulligan. But I am really disappointed to hear that this selective victim-blaming nonsense was people's takeaway. mfers be stupid.