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madisonmassage in politics4real

Iran and gay rights intolerance in the extreme

Oct 10, 2007 14:12

Iranian president declared "we don't have homosexulas like in your country. We don't have that in our country. We don't have this phenomenon; I don't know who's told you we have it ( Read more... )

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So what is the solution? rainonlevs October 10 2007, 20:17:39 UTC

Okay, so if that is the case, would it help to prevent terrorism to foster and support those people in those countries that are more tolerant?

Are these intolerances coming from specific groups in specific countries? Are they promoted by the governments or do they just look the other way?

Re: So what is the solution? madisonmassage October 10 2007, 20:51:16 UTC

this is a brilliant paper on the subject ( ... )

Re: So what is the solution? woopflying October 11 2007, 09:32:03 UTC

Atitudes toward homosexuality in the West did not change in the last 50 years because of opposition by a foreign culture.

*policy of appeasement should be avoided*
Which means what?

Seems to me that there are more important changes in the Wests atitudes toward muslim countries than changes in muslim countries toward this minority interest subject.

Re: So what is the solution? madisonmassage October 11 2007, 12:46:39 UTC

You are correct; however, the social evolution of democratic countries and that of theocratic dictatorships may not be analogous. In the west you can protest, challenge repressive laws in court and work to elect leaders who share your vision. In a totalitarian state you get imprisoned or simply disapear for challanging the government. There is a substaintial difference in the course of social and political change in the two systems ( ... )

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woopflying October 11 2007, 10:10:58 UTC

More than 130 Muslim scholars have written to Pope Benedict and other Christian leaders urging greater understanding between the two faiths.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7038992.stm

Washingtons response will be interesting havong created terrorism so called from Chechnya to Indonesia.

so what's the pope gonna do? madisonmassage October 11 2007, 12:07:22 UTC

I'm not sure what the pope and christian leaders are going to do. As far as I'm aware the cristian countries don't currently imprison or kill people for coverting islam.

I would be more interested if the muslim leaders were writing to the family of saud and the iranian leadership to urge greater understanding between the two faiths.

"Washingtons response will be interesting havong created terrorism so called from Chechnya to Indonesia."

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here helicopter man..but then again my brains can be a bit slow sometimes.

Re: so what's the pope gonna do? rainonlevs October 11 2007, 19:07:20 UTC

Actually, this country that is "based on Christian values" has imprisoned, tortured and killed quite a few people for no crime other than being Muslim. And quite a few Americans supported that.

Re: so what's the pope gonna do? woopflying October 11 2007, 20:57:05 UTC

You are correct in stating that certain interpretations of the Koran approve of death to those who turn away from Islam, you cannot say that all muslims follow that.
To effect a change where it is still carried out is to support the reformers in that country not to challenge the countries leaders who use foreign intervention as intervention in the nations sovereignty and srengthens their position.

It just so happens that that the *war agains terror* is against muslims,
Chechnya seeking independence has been devastated by Russia. in opposing Russia they are declared terrorists and the West goes along with that.

Any response from the Pope will be listened to if it is to the advantage
of the USA

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