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May 11, 2004 14:57


Aww. Those poor victimized Iraqis.

Let us all recall that al Qaeda has "no" ties to Iraq, nor did it when Saddam Hussein was in power. Abu Sayyef must not have ever existed. And this web site must all be part of some conspiracy. I bet Michael Moore can't wait to blame President Bush for this one.

I grabbed this from CNN. The web page, for those ( Read more... )

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lithera May 11 2004, 12:05:13 UTC
I don't knwo what to say. I was reading the AP article just before I saw you posted it here.

It makes me feel sick and very sad and... I just want it all to stop. I just don't know of a way to do that.

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prince_inari May 11 2004, 12:20:46 UTC
The only thing those people understand is violence and death. They think Americans are weak because we treat our women with respect and spare their lives when we don't necessarily have to, and that we're foolish for not attacking their mosques where they stockpile weapons. You ought to hear the things they say if they see an American man speak to a woman with anything approaching equality (and provided they don't think they'll get their ass kicked).

No, I'm not making it up. I saw it. I was there. I lived in it for longer than I ever want to. None of this means that I think they're all bad or evil, but this is how things are. What pisses me off about the entire situation in Iraq especially is that it's Vietnam repeating itself, and I'm not talking about the government or the military, I'm talking about the civilians. All the protest bullshit and the movie star attention? Hell it's like looking at a newsreel of the 60's.

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lithera May 11 2004, 12:30:39 UTC
I don't think you're making it up. I don't think it applies to everyone in Iraq but it is certainly the norm.

I just have no idea what to do about the situation, even if there was something I /could/ do. Killing everyone won't solve the problem. Leaving won't solve the problem. What we're doing now is just seemingly making an escalating spiral of horror, instead of solving anything.

I don't know.

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jeditigger May 11 2004, 14:11:58 UTC
I want to point out that I am still dismayed that a few of our military made things hard for the rest by mistreating and even brutalizing Iraqi prisoners. I'm sorry some of our guys stooped to that level.

That said...

Every incident like the one you mention does nothing but hurt the Iraqi cause to get the allied forces out of their country and bring the allied commanders three steps closer to beating the ever-living hell out of the people there...and proving even to skeptics it might be deserved.

As you said, they only understand violence. Frankly, I am not so wise a person I know the way out of this conundrum. I wish we'd never gone. But we're over there, and now we pull out and look ridiculous, we maintain our presence and have our guys suffering like this, or we send in a few hundred thousand and flatten the place. I'm glad I'm not the one that has to make that decision.

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lithera May 11 2004, 14:56:08 UTC
*hugs*

Again, you manage to say what I want to say.

Thank you.

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samguthrie May 11 2004, 14:23:18 UTC
I'm not saying we should start visiting brutality on anyone, but maybe we should be politely reminding these people that if we leave, we might as well just let Saddam loose and give him the keys to his palaces, because one of his cronies will wind up on the top of the heap, and it'll be just as bad as it was before - if not worse.

It's amazing what people forget. I wish Ghenghis Khan would come back and remind the Middle East what it's like to get a real ass-kicking.

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givemethewhip May 12 2004, 06:14:47 UTC
And you know what? If we had as little regard for life as al Qaeda and its sympathizers, we would've already microwaved the entire middle east and this war would be long over. Don't forget who the good guys are.

Have you ever read the commentary by Tony Parsons that makes a similar point? You can find it here if you're interested. It's a couple of years old by now, and it focuses on 9/11 more than current events, because of that, but it makes a good point... something along the lines of "America scould have turned a portion of the world into a parking lot, but didn't, and that's a sign of it's strength."

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prince_inari May 12 2004, 21:04:55 UTC
Consider yourself friended.

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