Remember me?

[prpl_pen]

Meme the First
from puffs

Reply to this post, and I'll tell you at least one reason why I like you. Then put this in your own journal, and spread the love.
Meme the Second
from flashily

There's this Female Character Flowchart out there that I'm sure most of you have heard of already. If you haven't, let me sum it up for you: basically, all fictional female

Comments

[danbi]

Because the thing is, these women are all awesome, in their own unique ways.YES. I never really took memes or comparisons like this seriously before - or even noticed them, to be honest. But considering that fandom seems to be dominantly made up of women, it's kind of sad how harsh and dismissive we are to women in anime or manga. I'm not saying female characters should be loved by default just because/if a person is a woman, but... I guess something someone said to me years ago sticks out in my mind: men are lauded and women are despised. I don't know if despised is really the right word but the general idea I think is accurate. And I never understood until recently how important things like this actually are, even in a hobby - how much damage it can really does to a woman's outlook about herself

[prpl_pen]

NO IT’S NOT OKAY GOD BRI STOP HAVING OPINIONS

Jay kay. I always like reading your rambles! And, yeah, I think there’s a thing about female characters too, like…people in general seem to be overly critical in both directions, if you know what I mean? Like, a character with flaws will be dismissed for being weak, or bitchy, or [fill in the blank], but a character who’s TOO capable is dismissed as a Mary Sue, or sometimes called out for “acting like a man” and all that awesome bullshit. I think female characters are held to impossible standards in a lot of ways to begin with, because…yes, there are certainly cases of women being poorly written, to mainly serve as love interests, “prizes,” or objects to drive the plot, and having little identity of their own beyond that, but there are so many instances where that isn’t the case, and people are still overly critical. I even get where that comes from, to a degree, in that people want female characters to “measure up” in comparison to the actually poorly written females you see, but it’s

[printfogey]

(laaate reply - just commenting on the flow-chart thing because I don't think we've talked enough yet for the first meme)

That flow chart really was frustrating in its wrongheadedness. I posted the bulk of my thoughts about it in someone else's thread - over here if you're curious. On the plus side, though, I've seen several more people on my f-list react by fangirling on their favourite female characters, so that's cool! :D

Such nice-lookig icons you have! And so maaany. Hm, maybe I should shell out for more icons... after I've renewed my paid memebership which is due soon. (This time I shall pay for it myself!)

Oh, I wanted to ask you something. Have you read the latest chapters of One Piece?

[prpl_pen]

That’s okay! I never mind a late comment, and I’ve been slow in replying, as you can see.

Yes. I said above somewhere, but I think what bothered me most was how the chart was presented as being feminist, yet then proceeded to reduce so many multi-faceted characters into a simple stereotype each, which often is a stretch to even make fit-just ugh.

Thanks! I have spaces for some more, which now that I am trying to use my LJ more again, I will probably try to fill.

Yes, I have! Haha, armed guards couldn’t keep me from reading the new chapters when they go up. I just tend to do most of my flailing about them either on IM or on Twitter lately.

Aaaand. I’m going to do the meme for you anyway. Though…I’m not even sure what you like to be called yet. ANYWAY. I like reading your thoughts on various subjects, because what I’ve seen often seems very well-thought out and eloquent, and sometimes gives me a new perspective on things.

[printfogey]

I agree that the chart fails for those reasons as well - it certainly didn't seem feminist in the least. But I was also irked that a lot of the things in the chart strike me as tropes rather than stereotypes, so it heavily implied fitting into a trope - when they do fit, which as you note was often a stretch here - is inherently bad. But the way I see it, all characters fall into tropes. The good, complex ones are more than that, but you can still make tropes fit them.

Um, thank you! Those were very kind words. I often just feel like I'm blathering on very unstructuredly when I post. ;)

It's okay to just call me by my username. (It's actually the name of one of my original comics characters, who isn't my alter ego by any stretch - but I've gotten used to it as an LJ handle by now.)

[prpl_pen]

Yeah, that's a good point as well. I am really curious as to who the creator of that chart considers to be worthy of being called a three dimensional female character--if I remember correctly, she didn't provide any examples (which is unsurprising since given the nature of her chart, I don't know if anyone could measure up).

Random question: how would "serrende" be pronounced? Not that I'm likely to ever have to say it out loud; I just like to have these things straight in my head. I can think of two alternatives, but my brain is also very English-pronunciation biased, so...I could be way off anyway.

CONTESTS

[anonymous]

I truly enjoyed this information. You really have reviewed a number of important things here

Порно

[anonymous]

Смотреть порно