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Feb 10, 2005 23:14

In response to the flurry of comments:
"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of a conformist: the fashionable non-conformist "Ooh, lookee in the news; A republican club at Roger Williams college created a whites only scholarship ( Read more... )

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I dont totally disagree with you here... genuinemusic February 11 2005, 12:48:32 UTC
I was not accepted to Ithaca College with a 1111 SAT score, 95 gpa, and a class ranking of 5. I did not get accepted because they needed to accept some 'dumb kids' so that the college would not appear to be too selective. In your opinion is this right? I think it is a form of academicism that punishes me for having a higher average than other students. College's will never be anything but all politics.

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Re: I dont totally disagree with you here... peanutscl February 11 2005, 14:29:15 UTC
No school selects "dumb kids" to bring down the curve. They want their incoming GPA's to be high - for a private institution that is priced so high: the higher the overall GPA the better. If you mean "minorities" than thats something else all together.

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Re: I dont totally disagree with you here... pseudochunk February 11 2005, 15:15:55 UTC
Maybe not dumb kids, but a "variety" of students.

I've read the standards some schools use to accept students. Students with high academic scores, but who didn't do run-around shit like volunteering, who didn't write a cute enough essay, or didn't fit the "profile" the school was looking for.

In other words - yeah, politics.

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Re: I dont totally disagree with you here... peanutscl February 12 2005, 15:40:44 UTC
They want kids who do activities because kids who do activities in high school are more likely to do activities in college - meaning the more they accept, the more "active" a community they will have, the more support and more participation in campus programs and extra curricular activities - which is not only honestly good, but it looks great too.

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peanutscl February 11 2005, 14:26:35 UTC
You know I agree,

But affirmaitive action is one of the issues I'm on the fence about...because its so easy for me to see it from the other side...

Minorities are the ones who are in big cities, plugging along in the lowest income bracket - and its because of a number of things, but their place in society right now is a result of a number of things....but I see the justification: make college cheaper for minorities - more minorities enroll - more equality overall...

I mean, you cannot deny that white people (as an entire population) really have a leg up on college competition just by being born...

But I understand on the individual level that its really just plain unfair - one person to get in, or to get money just because of their race.

The intent of affirmative action is good, but its hard to measure its actual effects.

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pseudochunk February 11 2005, 15:14:13 UTC
Affirmative Action is something I really cannot be one way on. Talented minorities don't want to be taken as second rate given an unfair leg up, and Caucasians don't want to suffer reverse discrimination.

Equality isn't justice. As a caucasian male, I'm at no advantage in the Admission and Scholarship process, especially as a low-income rural male.

I didn't notice any blood sample or photo send-in with anything I've done.

It's not only white people who don't like the idea of Affirmative Action, promininant and successful minorities resent the idea that people assume they were given an unfair advantage.

Good intentions don't mean much :)

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peanutscl February 12 2005, 22:36:37 UTC
haha. this kid is a cancer to society and the internet. He adds tons of fucking girls on myspace to try and get laid and it doesn't work. Then he spouts his conservative political views upon everyone. He says fuck minorities and all liberals are queer. I'm neither gay, republican or democrat. But it doesnt take one of those to recognize a fucking dick. especially a gay.. dude youre a fucking joke. " I add friends on myspace to experience lots of different ideas and views, then I tell them I hope niggers die and i hate fucking queers and that liberals are gay" Fucking joke. You add people on myspace because you can't find a woman in that hick fucking town of yours. Then you jerk off to their pictures on myspace. At least with you around I'll have someone to laugh at on the internet. You do have some cute pictures though.. Ive never seen a monkey wearing eye glasses.. well maybe those chimps they make talk on TV. Get off the internet. Go flare your nostrils somewhere else I'm sick of seeing your fucking picture everywhere. praise ( ... )

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pseudochunk February 12 2005, 23:46:56 UTC
I'm not out to find pooty, bucko.

I'm out to find people with a half-bit of fuckin' wit, something you're apparently lacking.

kthx

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peanutscl February 11 2005, 14:27:39 UTC
could I have possibly said number of things twice in one sentence? Just ignore that.

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peanutscl February 11 2005, 20:29:39 UTC
Affirmative Action is wrong not only because it favors race over merit, but it's also offensive to your typical white guy like myself, because college universites imply that only minorities can add diversity.

Affirmative Action also stigmatizes minorities as retards who need special help in order to succeed. Maybe this is true though, I'll have to research the subject some more.

-Ryan Cronin

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peanutscl February 12 2005, 15:25:45 UTC
In society, they really ARE given an unfair cut - thats the thing that makes me understand. I mean, poor people raised in cities are likely to have poor kids. kids born poor are less likely to go to school. This part makes sense to me in order to promote social equality...and I'm sure thats PART of the reason they ask for income on applications ( ... )

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pseudochunk February 13 2005, 14:54:42 UTC
It has absolutely nothing to do with race ( ... )

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anonymous February 14 2005, 13:03:48 UTC
i hope you die.

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a_cadaver February 15 2005, 14:41:05 UTC
Whoever spewed that vomit in the form of text really acoplished nothing but demonstration his lack of maturity, limited vocabulary, excessive arrogance, and blatent stupidity. He also set himself up to get fucked... go get him cowboy.

Jon you said yourself that your school doesn't have the oppurtunites that larger, wealthier schools have and therefore that limits both you and your peers. Why then does this not apply to city schools, like the ones on the westside of syracuse? Both places lack oppurtunity, and (especially on the westside) a safe constructive learning environment.

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pseudochunk February 18 2005, 05:36:33 UTC
What are you even talking about?

I'm talking about scholarships being merit based, not racially based; there's whites, blacks, latinos, of both sexes and even more colors living in city schools -- and they all deserve equality.

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pseudochunk February 18 2005, 05:37:23 UTC
"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of a conformist: the fashionable non-conformist "

Were you talking about this?

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No a_cadaver February 18 2005, 19:17:59 UTC
I was actually talking about that idiot who was attempting to make fun of you.

Then I was talking about How you complained about the lack of oppurtunity at your school.

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