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Jun 23, 2003 10:10

Teens, and now DEA, are on trail of hallucinogenic herb ( Read more... )

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theta_waves June 23 2003, 09:02:38 UTC
fuckin A !!!!!

I am furious. They are so fucking ignorant and the fact is all the information is available to them yet they choose to stay under the umbrella of assumptions and fear factors of the unknown. If only I was a fucking millionare, I would change this overnight--I would make info-commercials and I would start a show on cable that would be solely on psychedelic education and have the likes of Shulgin and Strassman on as guests...Something drastic has to be done and what bothers me the most is it seems noone is realizing this WAR that is going on...yes it has always been around but my God, lately they are just really fucking charging towards it...and no one seems to be up in arms...our 'community' is very large and still way too underground. Things on the defense need to be shaken up and out so we can stop this bullshit already.

::breathes::

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pseudonymous June 23 2003, 09:31:10 UTC
It's really quite simple:

Drugs're bay-ud, mm-kay?

That's what it boils down to. It seems like that's what it'll always boil down to.

It's kind of disgusting that human beings are denied the right to take the risks they want to take with their bodies, especially when the goal isn't abuse, but rather the expansion of consciousness.

bleh.

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zboson June 23 2003, 09:45:39 UTC
It is precisely the "expansion of consciousness" effect which is why many drugs are illegal. This frightens some for very good reason. It has nothing to do with bodily harm at all, though they usually try to put that spin on it in order to brainwash the masses into compliance.

However, no rights have been denied us. We'll still do what we please, regardless of "laws", which essentially are meaningless, and do not bind us. Remember that. Their laws do not bind us.

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pseudonymous June 23 2003, 11:48:41 UTC
True enough.

But to be left in peace, and to have drug laws that acknowledged the nuances of psychotropics, narcotics, hallucinogens, etc., instead of being based on what seems like cartoonish propaganda, would be nice.

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zboson June 23 2003, 12:30:39 UTC
Agreed.

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cleanlikegod June 23 2003, 11:22:25 UTC
bastards!

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xoexohexox June 23 2003, 11:51:03 UTC
I'll be interested what the DEA "discovers" about salvinorin A, since last i checked, its effects were a complete mystery, not having any recognizable effect on any human neuroreceptors.

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puristlove June 23 2003, 14:06:17 UTC
About six months ago (maybe more) it was found to bind to the kappa opiate receptor, which ketamine and dxm (I believe) also bind to.

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xoexohexox June 24 2003, 02:09:11 UTC
that's interesting.

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Laws asstronaut June 23 2003, 11:56:22 UTC
I have to concur that I am opposed to this.
Moreover, I think it is important that this not be a "law," whether anyone intends to obey it or not.
Once upon a time, there were few enough "laws" that it actually meant something to be a "law-abiding citizen." In a society in which there are so many laws that we don't know what we are violating, the social contract breaks down. Moreover, those who live in violation of "law" slowly stop viewing themselves as justified and "good" people. This becomes somewhat deleterious and a vicious cycle.

I do a fair amount of salvia and other legal herbs.
The amount of hubris involved in outlawing a plant is egregious.
I actually find it blasphemous.

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