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[pyrodrummer265]

Had a thought... If I have a four year old child that was a product of rape and I decide that I dont want it anymore... can I kill him?

Is there a diffrence between that and an abortion of a fetus that is of rape? They both can feel pain... how is it different?

Tell me your thoughts...

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Nope...

[surfincrow]

It's not different.
At all.

And that is the extent of my thoughts...
I'm against abortion, but at at the same time I do believe that certain circumstances are okay.
I contradict myself a lot on this issue. But I don't know why... I know for a fact that it is not something that I will, personally, have to deal with.
Because... I'm cool like that.

Re: Nope...

[magickpotion]

Of course it's different. Cells trying to turn into a kid versus a fully-developed person are completely different.

Re: Nope...

[surfincrow]

~rolls her eyes~

You're still killing...
It's murder.

Anyway, I didn't post on this subject to get into an argument. Because this subject is /very/ touchy...

So, don't argue with me. I'm really not in the mood. And anything you say will not sway my opnion so don't waste your energy.

Re: Nope...

[magickpotion]

That's sad that you don't want to engage in discussion with anyone opposed to your point of view. Just in case your case against abortion is in any way related to religious morals, even the Bible delineates between "killing" and murder".

If a person throws away a used condom, is that "murder" because the sperm will be killed?

Does one commit "murder" every time one moves because our body's cells are constantly being sloughed off and replaced with new cells?

I have a hard time assigning the word "murder" when it comes to cells.

[magickpotion]

Obviously there is a huge difference.

One is a kid, one is a pile of goo. Unless you're talking about late-term abortion, which was a minute percentage of abortions.

[pyrodrummer265]

A kid is a kid... When does it a turn into a kid from a pile of goo? Ever dicect baby pigs in biology? They are taken from a mother's womb... Do you think this is a right thing? If you think that dicecting a pig fetus is wrong and killing a human isn't... you need to rethink your beliefs. Sorry if I am jumping to conclusions but I was on a rant. :)

[magickpotion]

I don't follow the line of reasoning "a kid is a kid". A sperm is not a person. An egg is not a person. Uniting a sperm with an egg does not automatically create a "kid". During the first weeks of pregnancy, there is a cocktail of cells forming. All the bloody anti-abortion photos they show you are actually of very rare late-term abortions when the cells have actually formed into a somewhat viable human creature. The VAST majority of abortions are basically the consistency of a heavy period, not a mutilated little baby.

In response to your question, I refused to dissect baby pigs in biology and subsequently got a C for not sacrificing my principles. Funny you ask! Did you dissect baby pigs?

If you think that dicecting a pig fetus is wrong and killing a human isn't... you need to rethink your beliefs.1.) I personally think that dissecting a pig fetus is disrespectful and assenting to the horiffic pork industry that keeps pigs in disgusting conditions and slaughters them cruelly and systematically

[gungho_squirrel]

Well said. I agree with much, most likely all, really, of what you have said. It makes sense to me and actually parellels my own personal beliefs regarding this issue.

As for Perkey's homosexual nature and his strong unwavering support for the Republican party, I am just as confused as you are. Why would anyone want to support something that stands for the opposite of what they are? I know there's other issues that can be supported, but being gay is part of who he is and will affect his life forever.

Interesting how Bush wants to terminate gay rights completely, yet gays support him. And terminating their rights in America is ridiculous, because America is about freedom. Sexual orienation is a lifestyle, and gays are people too.

Hm... in conclusion. I hate Bush. =)

I'll respond to the main question directly.

[gungho_squirrel]

The difference is the development. Which you seem unable to grasp through all of what magickpotion has been saying

Re: I'll respond to the main question directly.

[pyrodrummer265]

Now why didn't she say things like that? She started as a bitch and never got less. You = Aweome.

Re: I'll respond to the main question directly.

[gungho_squirrel]

I like fillet minion.

*shifty eyes.*

Re: I'll respond to the main question directly.

[pyrodrummer265]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[alcarilinque]

Just so you know, I'm not attempting to beat you up for your opinion here. Just stating my beliefs. ;o

[timeloopool]

Arguments based on assumptions are typically worthless.