Egads, people are dense.nephilimnexusAugust 3 2009, 07:30:46 UTC
I think he was aiming for sarcasm, here. Health coverage for the military is government funded, given to all staff equally and paid for by the taxpayers, ergo it is socialized medicine.
That's right, our country has been handing out socialized medicine for decades... but only to it's own military, while everyone else is left to pay out of pocket.
Hence, saying that military peeps should have to carry private health care plans is sarcasm aimed at all the right-wing army people who keep freaking out over socialized medicine whilst they sit back and enjoy the benefits of having a taxpayer funded socialized medicine program all for them themselves.
Re: Egads, people are dense.pyrothejunkyAugust 4 2009, 13:25:18 UTC
True, im not arguing that. But sarcasm or not, have you experienced military healthcare by chance? 9 times out of 10 youre given some high dose of OTC pain med and told to come back if the condition persists.
And if you really have something wrong with you, and the doctor disagrees, it takes an act of God to get a second opinion, much less treatment.
Yes its free of the headache and worry of having to pay for it out of your pocket, but thats it. Besides there are much easier fixes for our current national healthcare problems.
I feel that its a very complex issue, and needs more than this knee jerk reaction to switch to a socialized healthcare.
My family dealt with the VA hospital system. Everything is a trade off. Sure, with the government sponsored plan you can't pick your doctor, but without it a lot of people aren't going to get any doctors at all.
Sadly, the USA has been undermining such ideas for so long that for them to try to impliement them falls into the same catagory as Detroit (motor city) trying to get public transportation back online - they just can't wrap their brains around it.
There are countries that have made socialized medicine work, but those are generally socialist contries to begin with. Their mindset is already in line with what they're trying to do. The USA, however, is still very much a "Me first, me second, me third and everyone else can die for all I care" nation, so I can't imagine socialized anything being ending up as anything but a totally dysfunctional epic failure in USA.
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That's right, our country has been handing out socialized medicine for decades... but only to it's own military, while everyone else is left to pay out of pocket.
Hence, saying that military peeps should have to carry private health care plans is sarcasm aimed at all the right-wing army people who keep freaking out over socialized medicine whilst they sit back and enjoy the benefits of having a taxpayer funded socialized medicine program all for them themselves.
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And if you really have something wrong with you, and the doctor disagrees, it takes an act of God to get a second opinion, much less treatment.
Yes its free of the headache and worry of having to pay for it out of your pocket, but thats it. Besides there are much easier fixes for our current national healthcare problems.
I feel that its a very complex issue, and needs more than this knee jerk reaction to switch to a socialized healthcare.
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Sadly, the USA has been undermining such ideas for so long that for them to try to impliement them falls into the same catagory as Detroit (motor city) trying to get public transportation back online - they just can't wrap their brains around it.
There are countries that have made socialized medicine work, but those are generally socialist contries to begin with. Their mindset is already in line with what they're trying to do. The USA, however, is still very much a "Me first, me second, me third and everyone else can die for all I care" nation, so I can't imagine socialized anything being ending up as anything but a totally dysfunctional epic failure in USA.
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