Repatriot

Jul 04, 2010 17:22

A month ago I referred to myself as being in the "honeymoon stage" of reentry, which drew objections from a friend who said that it's entirely unnotable that I'm happy to return home and find value in my own culture.

However, it seemed notable to me because people who are repatriating often do experience reverse culture shock. Many of my friends ( Read more... )

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joygibat July 5 2010, 03:34:29 UTC
It is OK to be happy.
You had a great experience and now another will occur soon.
Best wishes.

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anonymous July 5 2010, 04:34:40 UTC
No claim was ever made that some people have some difficulties adjusting, or that some people appreciate things about the place to which they're returning. Obviously both are true.

Rather, the claim is that talk of the "honeymoon stage" and "reverse culture shock" is mostly a waste of time. Those buzzwords are rather devoid of content -- they really don't indicate much of anything. Either the words are too strong and apply to almost nobody, or they're too weak and apply to almost everyone but have almost no substantive meaning, or more likely some combination of the above, where the person bandying the buzzwords is likely on the defensive trying to justify their own conversation topic or lecture or therapist or whatever, but in reality is just wasting our time. And that's fucking obnoxious.

Talking about the actual things that impact your life, things that are in some way particular, in some way specific, and in some way actually interesting, on the other hand, those may be worthwhile topics after all.

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anonymous July 5 2010, 04:37:30 UTC
Wait, wait, I'm not quite done.

... not that I'm opposed to therapists in general. However, I am opposed to people who open their talks with EVERYONE GOES THROUGH CULTURE SHOCK.

-qwerty-

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qatar July 5 2010, 04:47:23 UTC
Ah, did you get the same vapid lecturer at staff orientation that we did? :-) She was pretty awful. Also, she responded to an audience question by telling the questioner that she was clearly depressed, which, hello, inappropriate.

I think discussing culture shock as an entity is valuable in that some people don't expect to have the kinds of reactions they do, and I think it can serve to normalize those reactions. On the other hand, I've always thought that it was dumb that it was discussed as an entity in itself instead of as a subset of "life transitions." I had much more culture shock going away to university -- or getting married -- than I've ever had from visiting another culture.

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dubaiwalla July 5 2010, 05:05:34 UTC
how to hold my knife and fork
Unless you were eating steak, which seems unlikely, I'm rather curious as to how this was dramatically different across the pond.

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qatar July 5 2010, 05:50:45 UTC
In the UK your fork stays in your left hand, tines pointing down, when you put food in your mouth. In the US you may cut food that way, but then you switch the fork into your right hand, tines up, to put it in your mouth.

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susancalvin July 5 2010, 09:55:05 UTC
I'm going to be moving back to the US in August, after 3 years in Israel, so I've been very interested in reading what you have to say about reverse culture shock. I honestly don't know how I'm going to feel. Israel is, in most ways, so Western and so much like the US that most of my original culture shock came from being lulled into a false sense of feeling like I knew how to handle every situation, and then suddenly being confronted with an unexpected unfamiliarity.

I expect language to be hard for me. I've gotten very used to being bilingual, surrounded by other bilinguals. My Hebrew is peppered with English and my English is peppered with Hebrew. My English vocabulary has become appallingly limited. That will probably come back quickly.

I'm sad to move off a calendar built around Jewish times and holidays, and back onto a Christian/American one. I'm happy to get Sunday back, but I'll miss Shabbat.

Not sure what else.

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gustavolacerda July 5 2010, 21:22:19 UTC
:-)

ok, but you visited PGH at least one summer (that's how I met you). Was there no honeymoon then?

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qatar July 6 2010, 01:59:08 UTC
There were lots of things that struck me as odd about the US when I visited (like the amount of skin people show), but I think visiting somewhere and moving there give you very different experiences.

Also, when I met you I had just started corticosteriods, which made me overwhelmingly depressed, so I wasn't having much of a honeymoon. :-)

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