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sanj June 18 2008, 01:28:01 UTC
I know -- I can't.... WOW.

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qe2 June 18 2008, 02:23:18 UTC
Right?

And the kicker? (As user reminded me below.) is that they got married BEFORE, when Newsome did this under local authority, and then their marriage was ruled illegal.

ILLEGAL.

I just. I cannot. I still don't have the words.

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meresy June 18 2008, 01:29:49 UTC
OMG!

\o/

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qe2 June 18 2008, 02:25:03 UTC
YES.

HOPEFULLY.

Goddamn CA conservatives.

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meresy June 18 2008, 02:29:07 UTC
*kicks them in the head*

They always want to ruin it. Hopefully they'll be about as successful as ours were.

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qe2 June 18 2008, 02:39:41 UTC
1) *snorks omg at your icon* That? Is fucking awesome.

2) *joins you with the kicking*

3) I wish. Unfortunately, I gather from Nos that y'all's conservatives are a lot like our middle-of-the-road semi-liberals. Trust me when I tell you: US conservatives are a bloody scary lot.

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qe2 June 18 2008, 02:25:33 UTC
Seriously, my Lima - I am teary over here.

And scared. Vancouver?

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mactavish June 18 2008, 01:36:21 UTC
We have our work cut out for us now, here in California. We have five months in which to kick that proposed state constitutional amendment out to the curb, and this is a more conservative state than some folks realize. Our rural sector is conservative, as are huge parts of urban areas of southern California. It's going to be a fight.

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qe2 June 18 2008, 01:38:07 UTC
Sigh. Yeah. I've heard that from others in CA, and your informed feedback substantiates the rumors: this just isn't gonna be as easy as lefties elsewhere think.

What, in your opinion, can advocates outside the state do, if anything?

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wordplay June 18 2008, 01:59:22 UTC
Echoing Q's question - are there organizations spearheading the effort to whom we can send money or something?

(Because what I really want to do is go stand outside county courthouses and congratulate the hell out of everybody walking in and out, whether they're getting marriage licenses or paying a traffic citation, but that's less practical.)

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mactavish June 18 2008, 02:06:02 UTC
Here's the group spearheading the legal drive:
http://www.eqca.org/

Other than that, the only thing I can think of offhand for out of state people to do is to continue to create the climate that it's ridiculous to disallow someone a partner and the legal rights of marriage on account of their sex. Spread the word. Let people who are undecided know about people like Del and Phyllis, and the woman I mentioned in my own LJ who got married while saddled with late-stage breast cancer, and ask why they shouldn't be married, really.

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the_antichris June 18 2008, 01:45:50 UTC
I got like two sentences into a news story about that and I was BAWLING, yo.

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mactavish June 18 2008, 02:08:06 UTC
Del and Phyllis have been a local icon for more than half my life. My sisters came out as queer in the seventies, when I was in junior high or younger. I've known about Del and Phyllis and their contributions since maybe '76.

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qe2 June 18 2008, 02:26:54 UTC
Until reminded, I'd forgotten that they were among the first to get married when Newsome did that under local law - and then to have their marriages declared illegal thereafter. I can't even imagine how that must feel.

Sometimes I think we need more iconographic figures.

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wordweaverlynn June 18 2008, 04:54:24 UTC
They were the very first. And afterwards, they threw a huge public wedding reception, full of LGBT couples and friends. gramina and I went, although we can't get married for other reasons. (Sigh.)

This is something I'll be actively fighting for. Because marriage is a human right.

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