The new Minisrty and "Skinny Puppy" - my thoughts...

May 31, 2004 08:51

Ministry Houses Of The MoleRight from the first track, No "W", I hate the new Ministy. The track opens with that Karl Orff piece that was witten for "Excalibur" and has been used in thousands of movies and sampled by pracically everyone at one point or another. Jougenson plays this loop and overlays it with George "Dubyah" Bush samples. How ( Read more... )

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ggerg May 31 2004, 10:31:54 UTC
Ministry has been dead for ages, agreed.

I personally like the new Puppy quite a bit, but understand why ppl don't. Oh, and they are doing a full North American tour, with supposed Canadian dates, in the fall after getting back from Europe (and doing their quickie US tour beginning shortly).

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r4ncid May 31 2004, 16:12:40 UTC
I dunno... there's just something about it. Which I find strange considering that I'm one of the few people I know that loved The Process. It seems more like an ohGr/cEvin Key project. See pfloids post below.

On that note though, have you heard the new Tweaker CD?? **drooool**. That is one phenominal hunk o' music =)

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ggerg May 31 2004, 18:15:47 UTC
Haven't heard the Tweaker yet, no....I'll check it out. :)

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phreeduhm May 31 2004, 10:39:12 UTC
i got to say i'm pretty dissapointed with the new puppy as well. I really like most of cEVIN kEY's solo stuff and collaborations since actually, but havn't been too keen on most of oghr's. The thing with this album though, is that most of the sounds seem kind of predictable compared to a lot of mainstream industrial right now.

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r4ncid May 31 2004, 18:13:01 UTC
I don't mind ohGr's stuff too much and I cEvin Key's work (Jaysin introduced me to most of that - I especially love Doubting Thomas).

You're right, it does sound predictable - although I kind of like the vocals. But H. emailed me this aft and made a good point: " I like what they've done to the vox on the remastering, but it should be alot more fucked up. this is like top40 puppy".

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phreeduhm May 31 2004, 18:43:18 UTC
basically.

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pfloide May 31 2004, 16:01:16 UTC
My feeling about the Puppy was just that it sounded like a collaboration between Key and Ogre. I like cEvin Key's solo work - and these instrumentals had some of the same qualities, with a different angle. Liked that. The lyrics were on a par with Ogre's solo stuff, too, which I don't like as much, but is OK. What it was missing was the extra quality you get from people who are really tight collaborators. Which is unsurprising, since they haven't been together for years.

If they hadn't put the Puppy name on it, and set particular expectations, I would have liked it more on the first listen. (Compare "Frozen Sky" on "The Ghost of Each Room" - which is a Key/Ogre collaboration not labelled SP, and is pretty good on that basis). As it is, it took a few times through before I decided it's actually good. More the second half of the album, tho.

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evilunderneath May 31 2004, 19:02:18 UTC
it kinda proves what I thought might be the case . puppy doesn't work the same post-Dwayne . after what had been said around when animositisomina came out I had high hopes that ministry was edging back to the more electronic side . alas no . just goes to show if ya want good music ya gotta make it yourself .

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