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Aug 28, 2011 04:25

I don't identify with that other man, the one who I was during that flood. I'm sure we did have some things in common. Mannerisms, certain aspects of our outlook on the world, cultural interests perhaps, but the differences between us were decided before I had any control over my life. The experiences that formed him, I never encountered. I don ( Read more... )

good work ethic, laughably bad childhood, kind of in love with nygma, let's all be friends

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Spam; raisedinabox August 28 2011, 04:08:43 UTC
You don't normally get to see it this late, but yes. [Jim replied] I wasn't sure that you were actually going to make it back here at all last night.

[He reached for the tray, bringing the fruit closer to Edward's grasp.] Are you going to be joining the waking world sometime today, or should I let you get back to sleep?

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Spam; raisedinabox August 28 2011, 04:41:29 UTC
[Jim shifted onto the mattress beside Edward.] Beatty and O'Brien. I heard about that. [Jim still read Armand's journal every few days, and last night, when Edward hadn't returned at a normal time, he'd checked it to make sure that there was no announcement of his injury. It was probably a lot safer not to let on that Jim knew at all, but... He knew Edward's feelings on lying. Better to admit knowledge of the event, and to remain vague on his sources.]

Have you had a chance to speak with Beatty about it?

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doctor_j_crane August 28 2011, 06:11:00 UTC
The only thing I managed to conclude with my post is that we're expected to "change". As for what that change is and how to go about doing it, you'll probably never know.

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raisedinabox August 28 2011, 18:14:26 UTC
Really I suspect the change required varies from person to person, asking for a general vote from the populace probably wouldn't have given you a specific answer anyway.

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doctor_j_crane August 29 2011, 13:59:51 UTC
I wanted some kind of consensus. All I got was confused muttering.

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private iam_aghost August 28 2011, 12:08:52 UTC
You never quite said where you stood on that particular subject, Jim.

What do you think about the nature of this place?

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Re: private raisedinabox August 28 2011, 18:19:09 UTC
The nature of this place?

[Hum.]

I think the intentions behind it are good, and there's a lot to be said about personal growth... but at the same time, it's hardly a secret that success from enforced rehabilitation is temporary at best. Unless people want to change then they won't.

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Re: private iam_aghost August 28 2011, 18:53:32 UTC
So the first task of any half decent warden is to convince their inmate it's worth changing?

Do you think people do enforce it, or think they can?

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private raisedinabox August 28 2011, 22:25:00 UTC
If you were trying to rehabilitate them from anything else then that would be the first step. Make it look like it leads to a better life, and then make it look possible.

Not really. I don't think it's possible to force someone to be good. I think that's why inmates here take so long to change. They spend months and months actively fighting the system, so by the time they begin to consider change they're desperate and disillusioned, and they have a long way to go for it to work.

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raisedinabox August 28 2011, 18:44:44 UTC
Perhaps you haven't seen the list, but you've lived it. Do you not feel like you have anything to atone for?

I find it hard to believe you have no feelings at all about this imposition on your liberty, you really don't care?

In the flood... everything here was reversed. The wardens became evil, and tried to beat the goodness out of inmates, who were like... good versions of ourselves.

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Private because DEMON PREFECT GO AWAY darknessb4me August 28 2011, 21:53:29 UTC
It's not your physical freedom. This place gets into your mind.

Arthas. Surname irrelevant. We've met.

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