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Feb 02, 2010 22:08

Rakshasas Gaze (9:25:16 PM): I don't like the idea of marriage.  Not because it involves commitment, but what it is.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:25:34 PM): It's some strange marriage of religious tradition and legal status.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:25:41 PM): Two things that really should never go together, but do
Rakshasas Gaze (9:26:13 PM): Plus, the idea of it tends to pollute girls' heads.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:26:26 PM): Dating isn't dating, it's groom hunting
Rakshasas Gaze (9:26:33 PM): Gotta find a guy who'll play prop at my big wedding party
Rakshasas Gaze (9:26:53 PM): Hearing some of them talk, it's like they think marriage ends once the last guest goes home from the reception.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:27:41 PM): They think nothing of the COMMITMENT and the PASSION and growing together and caring for them forever and ever
Rakshasas Gaze (9:28:59 PM): It's all "Hey, I get a pretty white dress that Daddy buys for $5000!  And everyone's gonna be at church and I'll look so pretty!  And I'll be there with that guy, who will stand up there like a dope in his rented tux.  He'll say some romantic stuff and give me a big diamond!  Then we get to have a ball!  Fancy dinners, tablecloths, dancing.  And it's all about me."
Rakshasas Gaze (9:29:01 PM): No.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:29:06 PM): I'm not about that.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:30:09 PM): Other guys will view that as means to an end, and I'll admit I'd be willing to play the game for just one day, but I am NOT going to be happy about participating in that grand charade called a wedding.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:30:15 PM): Besides.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:30:26 PM): A strong relationship is a strong relationship with or without marriage, with or without that ring
Rakshasas Gaze (9:30:32 PM): You don't NEED it.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:30:37 PM): It's just kind of... there.
BMS (9:31:19 PM): I was taught that if you adore someone you marry them.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:31:22 PM): You shouldn't need a piece of paper and a day long ceremony to know that you'll stay committed to each other.
BMS (9:31:35 PM): Well, I do.. I feel it's needed, maybe because of how I was raised up..
Rakshasas Gaze (9:31:41 PM): Yeah, see, religious tradition.
BMS (9:31:48 PM): No, we weren't even religious.
BMS (9:31:51 PM): Just tradition itself.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:32:08 PM): Tradition is just doing stuff because someone else thought it was a good idea.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:33:15 PM): Personally, I have little need for tradition.
BMS (9:33:59 PM): Well, I like tradition. And I also like the fact that there's something tangible saying, "These two vowed themselves to each other."
Rakshasas Gaze (9:34:10 PM): A vow is meaningless anymore.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:34:13 PM): 50% of marriages fail.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:34:30 PM): That's almost Xbox 360 bad.
BMS (9:35:17 PM): Well, I'll just be a common law wife then.
BMS (9:35:18 PM): But no kids.
BMS (9:35:24 PM): My kids will not be born out of wedlock.
BMS (9:35:25 PM): Period.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:35:36 PM): My great aunt never got married
Rakshasas Gaze (9:35:38 PM): Had two kids
Rakshasas Gaze (9:35:43 PM): Lived with the guy she was with until he died
BMS (9:35:52 PM): Nah, I'm good on that.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:35:57 PM): See, it can work
BMS (9:36:02 PM): No.
BMS (9:36:14 PM): Not having babies out of wedlock.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:36:26 PM): That's your prerogative
Rakshasas Gaze (9:36:37 PM): I'm just saying that marriage is meaningless, and is just there for the sake of itself
BMS (9:37:00 PM): I won't get married willy nilly... I wonder if Rich's parents are married.
BMS (9:37:04 PM): I know he has a half-sister...
BMS (9:37:09 PM): huh.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:37:20 PM): Do you get what I'm saying though?
BMS (9:37:31 PM): Yes.
BMS (9:37:34 PM): And I don't agree.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:38:50 PM): Okay.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:39:00 PM): Why is a wedding necessary to have a committed relationship with someone?
BMS (9:39:10 PM): I never said I needed a wedding.
BMS (9:39:24 PM): I just need some proof. Like, just a ring and someone to marry us.
BMS (9:39:29 PM): It doesn't have to be some HUGE ceremony.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:39:34 PM): I like that.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:39:41 PM): You're obviously not from the Midwest.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:39:51 PM): The girls here watched too many Disney movies growing up.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:39:59 PM): I really wonder if they roll out of their mothers with a veil on.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:42:05 PM): After seeing the three weddings I was at recently...
Rakshasas Gaze (9:42:26 PM): "Here comes the bride" is a perfect song.  Because that's how you summarize the whole ordeal.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:42:29 PM): Three times, in fact.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:42:32 PM): Here comes the bride.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:42:44 PM): There you go folks, there will be refreshments in some hotel lobby
BMS (9:42:59 PM): hrm.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:43:41 PM): Maybe it's because the three I saw were pompous affairs
Rakshasas Gaze (9:43:49 PM): Where everybody and their dog was invited
BMS (9:44:09 PM): =(
Rakshasas Gaze (9:44:21 PM): I'd want a smaller, more intimate gathering myself
Rakshasas Gaze (9:44:35 PM): A while ago, I even suggested eloping to Ruth
Rakshasas Gaze (9:44:53 PM): Nope, she'd rather have her white wedding.  Cast of thousands, of course.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:45:08 PM): She wants to rent out a fucking mansion and have it done on the lawn.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:46:00 PM): http://www.joslyncastle.com/ It's ridiculous, I think.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:46:16 PM): But I'm just the groom.  I don't have a say.  It's the bride's dream, after all.  They've been thinking about this day their whole lives.
BMS (9:47:27 PM): Don't do it.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:48:18 PM): Don't do what?
BMS (9:48:52 PM): Get married.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:49:08 PM): Mind explaining why?
BMS (9:49:53 PM): I don't think you'd want to get married as if it's some big affair.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:50:05 PM): Yeah
Rakshasas Gaze (9:50:18 PM): I feel the bigger the wedding gets, the less it's about "us" and the more it's about "me"
Rakshasas Gaze (9:50:21 PM): Or "them"
BMS (9:50:38 PM): -nods-
Rakshasas Gaze (9:55:46 PM): She's talking about old school teachers going to the wedding and stuff to make her mother happy.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:56:03 PM): Fuck her mother, I say.  If she wants to dictate who's gonna be at a wedding, she can go out and find someone and get married herself.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:57:00 PM): I get the feeling that if we do go through with it, I'm gonna be the bad guy when it comes to preparation.
Rakshasas Gaze (9:57:21 PM): She'll make the guest list, I'll grab a black sharpie and go to town
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