URGENT: Evolution is destroying Jesus!!

[ramshii_extasis]

The CD player in my car quit working, so on the way home this morning I tuned in to a mainstream Christian station. Not sure which one. But a scientist was being introduced…a Dr. somebody who supposedly had studied evolution for 50 years and found it to be "a load of poo" and he was about to voice his argument about why Creationism and Evolution

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[randerson1184]

Funny; all the creationists can do is disprove evolution. They can't really do much in the way of proving creationism. i.e. they can't really support the existence of the Garden of Eden or the Tower of Babel with empirical evidence. They tend to take those things on faith, but the idea of species changing over time is "too much of a stretch."

[ramshii_extasis]

Yeah, I'm still waiting for a valid argument. I've never even heard a logical disprovement of evolution. It's as if these hard-core creationists just make up random shit that sounds kinda logical to them. Like the whole oil from asteroids thing...
Personally, I see Biblical Creationism and Darwin's theory as completely compatible. One could take the whole "seven days" story as metaphores intended to help people understand the process of creation, which is still happening.
I just fail to understand the logic behind total rejection of the idea of evolution, even though we've SEEN it happen just in the past few generations (peppered moths, perpetual shifting of human DNA, the Flu, immune bacteria...) And I don't understand how Darwin's theory could possibly be considered athiest when Darwin himself had his degree in theology and never once denied the workings of God....

We're still primitives, you know.

[bassist_159]

I haven't been awake long enough to make any snide or insightful comments, but the skeletor bit had me almost out of my chair with laughter. Thanks.

[ramshii_extasis]

Skeletor is making bacteria IMMUNE to medicine! He is evil!

Re: Dammit

[ramshii_extasis]

Aye. It's such a beautiful faith...yet so currupted and ridiculed by its faithful.

Re: Dammit

[ramshii_extasis]

I've no idea...I just found that pic on google.
I'm trying to imagine the episode that would have come from...
"And now for my evil plan! I will dress as a princess and propose to HeMan, putting this evil magic engagement ring on his hand! Neeyahaha!"

[blackmetalrain]

THANK YOU to those crazies for proving me right once again! This is why I'm no longer calling myself a christian (sane or otherwise). More and more I'm seeing the benefits of being a deist.
Although I can see how the evolution theory works I also have a few problems with it myself. My issues with the theory don't involve a conflict with my faith though.

The Skeletor bit was pretty funny to me as well.

[ramshii_extasis]

Cool. What problems do you see with the evolutionary theory?
Some of things I've pondered aren't exactly "problems"... but they make me start to ponder the potential influence of some Divine Intervener. Intelligent design, sorta.

[blackmetalrain]

Basically, the fact that if we evolved from apes then why are there apes now and why aren't they evolving? It seems pretty logical that a species would evolve to survive in their changing environment. But, the animals that our modern day animals evolved from, no longer exist. Over a period of time they died out so, why haven't the apes? I just feel there is a better explanation but it hasn't been found yet. The only explanation I can come up with would be that we evolved from ape-like creatures but not neccessarily the type of apes existing now days.

[ramshii_extasis]

Yeah, I've wondered that exact thing.
What I learned, though, is that the apes that exist today -have- evolved and aren't the exact same "apes" they were back when we were still "apelike creatures". I often wonder at how extremely different and more "advanced" humans are from all other animals. The only thing that has been explained to me that is at all clear is that all species are evolving at different speeds. There is no "mass evolution process", but a series of lines followed by all different forms of life: some slow (sharks, trees, turtles), some extremely rapid (aquatic iguanas, horses, dogs). Under the right sequence of events, a species will break from their class and will zoom off into a rapid line of one genetic success after another, leaving neighbor species to evolve at a more normal rate.... and supposedly humans are an example of one of those crazy natural phenomena.

[muwkiki]

Darwin was an agnostic. He believed in a deity, just didn't really know who/what it was. The "crazies" refuse to believe (including my insane Southern Baptist Parents) that "evolution (little e)" can exist w/o the monkey theory. You should talk to Dr. Aracena in the Biology dept. she has an awesome view on this. Ya know... the more I hear, the more I move from agnostic to borderline atheist.... You should really try stand-up, Sarah. Your comments lately have been soooo fuckin' funny... even funnier than usual!

[ramshii_extasis]

Heheh. Thanks

And I hope you don't take me to be bashing on Creationism. I have heard good arguments about evolution(with a little e) fitting in with the bible.
It's just frustrating when you hear a dumbass up there making the Christian faith look like the Following of Fools...

Is it true that on his death bed Darwin revoked everything he had tought so he could die a Christian?

[muwkiki]

I dunno about that one... I think I heard that rumor as well