life ruiners.
I'm trying to write Sif and Maria Hill and stuff and idk if it's going to work, because I'm writing it, but goddamn are they growing on my feels.
I've also gone all linguist on the movie. right now it's only the data-gathering phase, but it has to do with simple forms of character interaction.
In the canon of Avengers only, and not all of MCU (yet). I got through the film up to the part where Hulk is chasing her on the helicarrier, plus some things from later on that I remembered and noted early...
(x=others, y=Natasha)
-only Bruce and Coulson call Natasha by her full first name, once each
-Clint calls her Nat twice (and as far as my headcanon is concerned, he's the only one who gets to call her this) and Tasha twice (though either/both times may have been "Natasha" with a very quiet first syllable - this part is tentative and will have to wait for the blu-ray and me sitting too close to the screen even though my mom taught me better). pretty sure he never uses any formalities with or about her
-Cap never speaks of her, only addressing her to her face; he calls her ma'am twice (I hadn't realized that's all he calls her; I always write him with her calling her Tasha); when he's calling the shots during the epic ASSEMBLE bit on the street, and sends everyone off but her, he says "you and me" and then something like "You think you can close it?" later, over the comm. he never uses her name or title. ugh crack!sorta!OTP
-pretty sure x=Thor/y=Natasha is nearly an empty box on the grid D: (read on)
-and with everyone else, including Stark, Loki, Fury, and sometimes Coulson, etc it's (Agent) Romanoff.
-her alias is also never spoken by a character, though it does show on a computer screen with her photo, alongside Clint's photo and alias
(x=Natasha, y=others)
-she calls Bruce Doc, Dr Banner, and Bruce (just once, I think; too lazy to grab the notes, but it for sure happens in his final Bruce-to-Hulk moment on the helicarrier. good god do I love her in that scene)
-she calls Steve Cap or Captain and never uses his name, pretty sure. (she calls him "Cap" or "Steve" about evenly in my writing. in any case, THEY NEED TO FUCK, LIKE...YESTERDAY)
-she calls Clint Hawkeye (once) or Clint to his face and (Agent) Barton in the third person
-she only says Thor once, third person (I was about to say they had no one-on-one moments, but there was the bit about Selvig; and one might assume "Are you boys really that naïve?" is primarily aimed at him and Fury and kind-of-Bruce, but yeah almost no exchange of names whatsoever, read on)
-she addresses Loki directly, once, from the jet in Germany, and I don't remember the rest, and FYI he calls her something not very nice you guys
Maria Hill's first name is never spoken. And the film doesn't pass the Bechdel test, but other achievements considered, maybe that's not such a big deal. I don't like that the female characters may as well not exist for one another at all, as they never acknowledge each other and barely even share scenes. I'll have to re-watch the semi!assemble on the helicarrier for any background Natasha-Maria interaction, though I know none of it would be audible and I doubt they throw us a bone. maybe a deleted scene? just a couple weeks left til the home format drops...
And if I feel like watching Iron Man 2 again, I'll be sure to very closely catalogue Pepper-"Natalie" interactions, along with all the other crap. god I hope they pass the Bechdel test. (best line of the film, Stark to Nat: "You're fired.")
Darcy & Jane pass the test in Thor, as do Frigga & Sif if you squint at them sideways, and maaaaybe Steve & Bucky's dates in Captain America.
I have a feeling any analysis I can conjure up will tend toward feminist rather than linguist. I'm not in school. I don't have to endeavor to write coherently anymore. I do what I want.
if you want better, see this transcription & analysis of Natasha's dialogue by grey_bard. it's all the good shit.
does anyone watch Captain America for reasons other than 1) completion and 2) eye candy?
I've also gone all linguist on the movie. right now it's only the data-gathering phase, but it has to do with simple forms of character interaction.
In the canon of Avengers only, and not all of MCU (yet). I got through the film up to the part where Hulk is chasing her on the helicarrier, plus some things from later on that I remembered and noted early...
(x=others, y=Natasha)
-only Bruce and Coulson call Natasha by her full first name, once each
-Clint calls her Nat twice (and as far as my headcanon is concerned, he's the only one who gets to call her this) and Tasha twice (though either/both times may have been "Natasha" with a very quiet first syllable - this part is tentative and will have to wait for the blu-ray and me sitting too close to the screen even though my mom taught me better). pretty sure he never uses any formalities with or about her
-Cap never speaks of her, only addressing her to her face; he calls her ma'am twice (I hadn't realized that's all he calls her; I always write him with her calling her Tasha); when he's calling the shots during the epic ASSEMBLE bit on the street, and sends everyone off but her, he says "you and me" and then something like "You think you can close it?" later, over the comm. he never uses her name or title. ugh crack!sorta!OTP
-pretty sure x=Thor/y=Natasha is nearly an empty box on the grid D: (read on)
-and with everyone else, including Stark, Loki, Fury, and sometimes Coulson, etc it's (Agent) Romanoff.
-her alias is also never spoken by a character, though it does show on a computer screen with her photo, alongside Clint's photo and alias
(x=Natasha, y=others)
-she calls Bruce Doc, Dr Banner, and Bruce (just once, I think; too lazy to grab the notes, but it for sure happens in his final Bruce-to-Hulk moment on the helicarrier. good god do I love her in that scene)
-she calls Steve Cap or Captain and never uses his name, pretty sure. (she calls him "Cap" or "Steve" about evenly in my writing. in any case, THEY NEED TO FUCK, LIKE...YESTERDAY)
-she calls Clint Hawkeye (once) or Clint to his face and (Agent) Barton in the third person
-she only says Thor once, third person (I was about to say they had no one-on-one moments, but there was the bit about Selvig; and one might assume "Are you boys really that naïve?" is primarily aimed at him and Fury and kind-of-Bruce, but yeah almost no exchange of names whatsoever, read on)
-she addresses Loki directly, once, from the jet in Germany, and I don't remember the rest, and FYI he calls her something not very nice you guys
Maria Hill's first name is never spoken. And the film doesn't pass the Bechdel test, but other achievements considered, maybe that's not such a big deal. I don't like that the female characters may as well not exist for one another at all, as they never acknowledge each other and barely even share scenes. I'll have to re-watch the semi!assemble on the helicarrier for any background Natasha-Maria interaction, though I know none of it would be audible and I doubt they throw us a bone. maybe a deleted scene? just a couple weeks left til the home format drops...
And if I feel like watching Iron Man 2 again, I'll be sure to very closely catalogue Pepper-"Natalie" interactions, along with all the other crap. god I hope they pass the Bechdel test. (best line of the film, Stark to Nat: "You're fired.")
Darcy & Jane pass the test in Thor, as do Frigga & Sif if you squint at them sideways, and maaaaybe Steve & Bucky's dates in Captain America.
I have a feeling any analysis I can conjure up will tend toward feminist rather than linguist. I'm not in school. I don't have to endeavor to write coherently anymore. I do what I want.
if you want better, see this transcription & analysis of Natasha's dialogue by grey_bard. it's all the good shit.
does anyone watch Captain America for reasons other than 1) completion and 2) eye candy?